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Neberman vs Silbermann
Berlin (1902), Berlin GER
King's Gambit: Panteldakis Countergambit (C30)  ·  1-0

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Jan-21-13  LIzzard: Hard to imagine this kind of game as it occurred. I definitely agree with you Bartimaeus on the complete all-out attack from both players. Looks more like a set up resulting from a 2-min clock in speed chess
Jan-21-13  gars: This is why I love Mondays!
Jan-21-13  Bartimaeus: <Lizzard> I tried looking up this tournament. A famous tourney i find in Berlin 1902 is http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/Mont.... But neither of these players is listed in that. Maybe they had category B / C events under the same flagship tourney. Even then, i agree that this seems more like a blitz game. Fun to play over and instructive in the sense that it gives nice pointers on what "not" to do :)

<Oxspawn> nice buildup in your post :)

Jan-21-13  zb2cr: Solved in a matter of seconds. 13. Qxf8+ forces 13. ... Nxf8. This allows a mate similar to the "opera box theme" of Morphy vs. Allies: 14. Re8#.
Jan-21-13  DarthStapler: Got it easily
Jan-21-13  misjatal: Simple puzzles are great fun: no headaches (or hurt ego)
Jan-21-13  Dr. Funkenstein: What a crazy gambit! Is this at all sound or playable?
Jan-21-13  LIzzard: Bartimaeus - Thanks for looking it up! As you say, nice teaching tool...
Jan-21-13  Alex56171: That, even me!
Jan-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: Sob it another hoofed in ado it ram in knowledge

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Jan-21-13
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  paulalbert: The puzzle was easy enough, but I was intrigued by the Panteldakis Countergambit, with which I was not familiar, but there is plenty of information and analysis, having been played by Greco himself and the net search finds lots of articles. What I have not been able to find is: Who or where is Panteldakis after which 2... f5 is named? Does anybody know why the countergambit is named Panteldakis?
Jan-21-13
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  whiteshark: Monday morning puzzle.

<FSR> I Know What You Did there! :D

Jan-21-13  snakebyt: Queen sacrifice! QXf8 NXQ Re8# 1-0
Jan-21-13
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  playground player: If you know Morphy's "Opera House Game" by heart, you know the answer to this puzzle.
Jan-21-13  mistreaver: White to play. Monday. Very easy.13?
I first thought it was black to play, lol.
AFter that i saw it almost instantly:
13 Qxf8+ Nf8
14 Rd8 mate
Nice one for Monday. I venture to say it is 1/1 for now.
Jan-21-13
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  agb2002: The material is identical.

Black threatens 13... Nhf6 and the white queen can't move unless White plays Re8+.

The convergence of the LSB and the King's rook on e8 suggests 13.Qxf8+ to deliver mate after 13... Nxf8 14.Re8#.

Jan-21-13
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  agb2002: There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't...
Jan-21-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: Hobbesian: "nasty, brutish and short".

Milorad Nastic, Brutus (Computer), & R Short ... ?

Jan-21-13  Patriot: <<agb2002>: There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't...> LOL--I've done the same thing before in the same situation where the queen was sitting on the square of where the rook should be! I could have done the same thing here very easily, but since the mate was easy to spot I didn't bother with material.
Jan-21-13  boneil3774: 13.Qxf8+ Nxf8 14.Re8#
Jan-21-13  goldenbear: What was the losing move?????
Jan-21-13
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  rinkol: I would suggest that ... Q-f2 was a blunder. It cost a valuable tempo that black needed to get castled into safety on the Queen side.
Jan-21-13  norami: Reminds me of a game I heard about that went
1 e4 e5
2 f4 f5
3 d4 d5
4 de de
5 QxQ KxK
At this point White asked Black what he was doing and he said he didn't know how to play chess, he was just copying White's moves.
Jan-23-13
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  kevin86: White sacrifices two queens-ok,not quite,but at least one queen---to mate.
Jan-06-19
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  HarryP: Not a great game, but a pretty mate.
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