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Edmund Nebermann vs Silbermann
"The Phantom of the Opera" (game of the day Sep-26-2022)
Berlin (1902), Berlin GER
King's Gambit: Panteldakis Countergambit (C30)  ·  1-0

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Jan-21-13  Alex56171: That, even me!
Jan-21-13
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  chrisowen: Sob it another hoofed in ado it ram in knowledge

coat mercurial one together a in 12...Kd8 a cube it

her in flow duck it accolade a her 13.qxf8+ you in

cable a ride king it now in doored it down in a rod

13...Nxf8 in formulate again undulate rooke8#

Jan-21-13
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  paulalbert: The puzzle was easy enough, but I was intrigued by the Panteldakis Countergambit, with which I was not familiar, but there is plenty of information and analysis, having been played by Greco himself and the net search finds lots of articles. What I have not been able to find is: Who or where is Panteldakis after which 2... f5 is named? Does anybody know why the countergambit is named Panteldakis?
Jan-21-13  whiteshark: Monday morning puzzle.

<FSR> I Know What You Did there! :D

Jan-21-13  snakebyt: Queen sacrifice! QXf8 NXQ Re8# 1-0
Jan-21-13
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  playground player: If you know Morphy's "Opera House Game" by heart, you know the answer to this puzzle.
Jan-21-13  mistreaver: White to play. Monday. Very easy.13?
I first thought it was black to play, lol.
AFter that i saw it almost instantly:
13 Qxf8+ Nf8
14 Rd8 mate
Nice one for Monday. I venture to say it is 1/1 for now.
Jan-21-13  agb2002: The material is identical.

Black threatens 13... Nhf6 and the white queen can't move unless White plays Re8+.

The convergence of the LSB and the King's rook on e8 suggests 13.Qxf8+ to deliver mate after 13... Nxf8 14.Re8#.

Jan-21-13  agb2002: There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't...
Jan-21-13
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  Domdaniel: Hobbesian: "nasty, brutish and short".

Milorad Nastic, Brutus (Computer), & R Short ... ?

Jan-21-13  Patriot: <<agb2002>: There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't...> LOL--I've done the same thing before in the same situation where the queen was sitting on the square of where the rook should be! I could have done the same thing here very easily, but since the mate was easy to spot I didn't bother with material.
Jan-21-13  boneil3774: 13.Qxf8+ Nxf8 14.Re8#
Jan-21-13  goldenbear: What was the losing move?????
Jan-21-13  rinkol: I would suggest that ... Q-f2 was a blunder. It cost a valuable tempo that black needed to get castled into safety on the Queen side.
Jan-21-13  norami: Reminds me of a game I heard about that went
1 e4 e5
2 f4 f5
3 d4 d5
4 de de
5 QxQ KxK
At this point White asked Black what he was doing and he said he didn't know how to play chess, he was just copying White's moves.
Jan-23-13  kevin86: White sacrifices two queens-ok,not quite,but at least one queen---to mate.
Jan-06-19  HarryP: Not a great game, but a pretty mate.
Sep-26-22  nalinw: Dont get the pun - unless it is the Queen suddenly emerging from h8 .... which is ok
Sep-26-22  Cheapo by the Dozen: I had no clue about the pun, but it became readily apparent from the earlier comments.

Bonus: The combination may be regarded as a mirror image of that in the Opera House game, and mirrors figure prominently in Phantom as well.

Sep-26-22
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  Teyss: <nalinw> Morphy vs Duke Karl / Count Isouard, 1858

I don't see another link between the game and the pun, maybe I'm missing something.

<Cheapo by the Dozen: The combination may be regarded as a mirror image of that in the Opera House game, and mirrors figure prominently in Phantom as well.> Yeah the pun could have been "The Opera of the Phantom".

Sep-26-22  Swedish Logician: What a lovely gem! I simply had to save this to my collection Agreeable Miniatures ....
Sep-26-22
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  MissScarlett: I had two inspirations for this pun - one was A Hodges vs J Daniels, 1886 (kibitz #7), the other was seeing this musical again last week in Her Majesty's Theatre. The idea occurred during the interval.
Sep-26-22  Chessius the Messius: 3... Qe7 is playable.
Sep-26-22
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  Teyss: I wonder what's more surprising, the fact Missy reads my post or that she uses them as an excuse for her puns.

And is it respectful to see a musical when the country is mourning?

Sep-26-22
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  PawnSac: gosh, 12. ..Qxe1+ was certainly better, that is if black really wants to play on. 13.Kx 000 14.Qxh7 and ..Nhf6 maybe.

but this copycat stuff most often turns sour. I guess they hadn't learned that yet in 1902

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