Jul-25-08 | | Jesspatrick: Too bad we don't know the elapsed times. I'm thinking that Black's third move caused Euwe to start burning his clock. White's 5th and 6th moves are forced, as Black's b pawn is toxic. Euwe missed a chance to refute Spielmann's opening when he played 7.Qf3. Though that move gives White an edge, 7.Qg3! is powerful and Black must oblige with the craven 7...Kf8. |
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Jul-25-08 | | Where is my mind: What a fearless approach to the opening! |
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Jul-25-08 | | slapwa: Jesspatrick: I think you're right that Qf3 isn't the best, but the Q is already well placed, and White has two bishops and a better pawn structure, so what about 7. d4? If 7. ..., Qxd4; 8. Qf3, or 7. ..., cxd3; 8. Nxd3 with strong play on the black squares. If Black leaves the pawn, White can play Nf3, Bd2, Be2, e3, 0-0 and b3 before Black can castle. |
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Jul-25-08 | | Jesspatrick: Truth be known, 7.Qg3 is met with 7...Ne7 and after 8.Qxg7 Rg8 9.Qf6 the position is just the kind of game that Spielmann excelled at. So Max made a good choice with 7.Qf3 So, let's have a quick look at 7.d4 Perhaps the game continues 7...Ne7 (preparing to castle kingside. Not 7...Qxd4? 8.Qf3 Qxe5 9.Qxa8)8.Bf4 f6 9.Nf3 and it's about equal. Lots to explore here. This is a key game to know if you open 1.Nf3 and answer 1...d5 with 2.c4. |
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Jul-28-08 | | slapwa: I think the Bishop belongs on b2 or a3. If 7. d4, Ne7; 8. e3, Bb7 (or else 8.Be2) 9. b3 looks good for white. 9. ... c3; 10. Qa5. 9 ..., bxc3 10. Qxc3, and if the queens come off White still has a pull. |
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Jul-28-08 | | ughaibu: The only similar game is a black win: M Janata vs J Vesely, 1965 |
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Jul-28-08
 | | keypusher: Carlos Torre vs Ed Lasker, 1926 Tartakower vs Spielmann, 1925
Edward Lasker discusses the opening and the Torre game in <Chess for Fun and Chess for Blood>. |
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Jul-28-08 | | ughaibu: Opening explorer? |
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Jul-28-08
 | | keypusher: <ughaibu> <Opening Explorer?> Just seven examples. Opening Explorer |
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Jul-28-08 | | ughaibu: In cases like this, why does "find similar games" only produce one? It's rather odd. |
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Jul-28-08
 | | keypusher: <ughaibu> In this case, "similar games" are defined as those in which Black plays 6....Qd5, of which there are only two examples. Shamkovich vs Estrin, 1964 transposes, but the feature doesn't recognize transpositions, which is a drawback. |
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Jul-28-08 | | ughaibu: Chessbase has twenty games with the position after 6.Qxa3, six of these have an immediate Qd5, this one, one white win and four(!) black wins. |
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Jul-28-08 | | ughaibu: Here's a black win in eight moves:
[Event "Utrecht OKU I op"]
[Site "Utrecht"]
[Date "2000.05.??"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Baak,Evert"]
[Black "Burggraaf,Jan Theodoor"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "A09"]
1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Na3 e5 4.Nxe5 Bxa3 5.Qa4+ b5 6.Qxa3 Nf6 7.b3 Qd6 8.Bb2 c3
0-1
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Jul-28-08
 | | keypusher: <ughaibu> Yes, that was the continuation Lasker overlooked against Torre. Though Lasker thought White might have decent chances after 9. dxc3 Qxe5 10. c4. |
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