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| May-08-06 | | Zaius: Damn, guessed Bxe7. |
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| May-08-06 | | Mating Net: Opera House!!
My favorite mating pattern. |
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| May-08-06 | | NakoSonorense: Whenever i see this pattern, i always think of Morphy's game. |
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| May-08-06 | | PhilFeeley: 15...Nxg4?? is soooo bad. The backrank check is just waiting there to be exploited. How black missed it is a mystery. It was an obvious possibility for several moves. |
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| May-08-06 | | giantwizard: Being defeated in your own variation must be frustrating. |
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| May-08-06 | | ahmadov: <Zaius: Damn, guessed Bxe7.> But Bxe7 is also correct, followed by Qd6+ and then Qd8#. However, Black can only play Qd5 after Bxe7. This still gives White previliges. |
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| May-08-06 | | Zaius: <ahmadov> My line if black took the bishop would have been 17. Bxe7 Kxe7 18. Rxf7+ Ke8 19. Qd8# but yours also works. And as you say, black cannot take the bishop, and 17. Bxe7 Qd5 still puts black in a very bad position. |
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| May-08-06 | | Fezzik: Right on, Mating Net. There could be several ways for chessgames.com to go from here. There's Reti-Tartakover, Fischer-Reshevsky (not sure of the date, 1958 or 1959?), or numerous attacks against the uncastled king from Morphy to Polgar! Now that would be fun! |
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| May-08-06 | | Fezzik: One other possibility would be to go through games played at Liverpool, West Ham, or Cardiff (or players from these cities) to celebrate the F.A. Cup this Saturday. Boy, a collection of games with that criteria would be hard to find! |
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| May-08-06 | | chessmoron: <ahmadov> no, Bxe7 is followed by Qd5 and then white Qf4-Qxd1+ and on and on till checkmate. Simply Qd8 is a quick 2 move checkmate |
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| May-08-06 | | SJP: <Fezzik> Whom are you supporting? |
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| May-08-06 | | dzechiel: Saw the winning combination in a second or two. Took an extra second to make sure I wasn't missing anything. |
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| May-08-06 | | goldfarbdj: I have a feeling I've seen this game before...I've certainly seen that mating pattern before. (As others have noticed, it occurs in a famous Morphy game.) |
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| May-08-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Got it in 5 seconds! One of the nicest Monday puzzles ever. :) |
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| May-08-06 | | FHBradley: Why would a player of Burn's status fall into such a trap? |
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| May-08-06 | | mig55: Found it in 1 sec because i knew the game:-) |
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| May-08-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Perhaps Burn was in fact playing the White pieces? It's odd indeed that he didn't spot this mating pattern. |
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May-08-06
 | | Peligroso Patzer: It is surprising that Burn would fall into this checkmate. Was this game perhaps part of a simul? Although the Morphy mating pattern should be recognized by a player of Burn's caliber in a fraction of a second, it would take longer to see that Black's 15. ... Nxg4?? was walking into a forced win for White. After 16. Bb5+, Black could have avoided the two-move mate by playing 16. ... Kf8, but Black would still be hopelessly lost, with one possible continuation going: 17. Rxf7+ Kg8 18. Rxe7 Nxe5 19. Qf4 Bd7 20. Rxg7+ Kxg7 21. Qxe5+ Kg8 22. Qg3+ Kf8 23. Rf1+ Ke8 24. Qg6#. |
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| May-08-06 | | ahmadov: <chessmoron: <ahmadov> no, Bxe7 is followed by Qd5 and then white Qf4-Qxd1+ and on and on till checkmate. Simply Qd8 is a quick 2 move checkmate> Actually, I also noted Qd5 (for Black)in my previous post. I understand that Bxe7 is not an immediate mate, what I was saying was that if there was not 17.Qd8, then Bxe7 was still a good move for White. In other words I just wanted to encourage <Zaius> after his first post. |
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| May-08-06 | | Mendrys: Classic case of neglected development. Instead of completing his development and safeguarding his king black devises to snatch white's f2 pawn. He moves his dark colored bishop 5 times from move 6 to 14. He is so enamoured with this bishop he forgets to play with his other pieces! |
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| May-08-06 | | Landman: Looks like Black was... Burned? |
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| May-08-06 | | Halldor: I want to remember this useful mating pattern next time I go to Liverpool. :) |
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| May-08-06 | | zb2cr: Found it in under 10 seconds. I love Monday puzzles, they make me feel SOOOOOO smart. |
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| May-08-06 | | Willem Wallekers: <EmperorAtahualpa: Perhaps Burn was in fact playing the White pieces?>
I believe so too.
The puzzle was not too difficult ;-) for a monday. |
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| May-08-06 | | Whitehat1963: This took me a minute or so. Then, finally, I saw Morphy and the Duke and Count. |
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sac: 17.Qd8+
