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| Nov-30-12 | | rilkefan: Today I got the first two moves immediately - did not however consider ...Rac8. Still Qb5 doesn't seem difficult. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | iking: nice combination in the end ... |
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| Nov-30-12 | | rilkefan: <master of defence>, white just takes on d8 and d4 and plays Re8. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | Robespierre: As is often the case with Thurs/Fri/Sat puzzles, I actually got a couple of moves correct! On the down side the only problem is that none of my moves were in the correct order, & I failed to get even a majority of moves for the entire sequence. However, similar to 'rilkefan' I did figure out the answer to 'master-of-defence's question! |
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Nov-30-12
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Another example of what can happen when the Black Queen snatches the pawn b2. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | Boerboel Guy: <master of defence: Well, what happens after 30...Qxg6?> 31. Qxd8+.... |
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| Nov-30-12 | | diagonalley: i hadn't anticipated 27..... QR-B1 either, but even if one had done, then visualising ahead to 30.NxP+! is surely extraordinarily difficult |
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| Nov-30-12 | | vinidivici: Nice puzzle. been a perfect week for me.
i thought this line
26.Re6 Bxe6
27.Rxe6 Qf7
28.Nxg6+ Kg8
29.Re8+...white win
If 28...Kg7 Re7 and get the queen.
And why Re6, because the opponent queen becomes vulnerable and g6 pawn is ready taken by knight. And i swear this is the hardest puzzle in this week, still not crushing me yet. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | morfishine: Black is up a pawn and its passed. White's development is superior but Black can
quickly change that with <Ng5> or <Rac8> A couple of things to note before we look at candidates: One, the peculiar, 'caged-in'
position of the Black King due to his <Qf6>, <Nh7> & pawns <g6> + <h6> and
White's pressure against <g8> Second, both the 7th and 8th rank are vulnerable to an invasion by White's rooks
and/or Queen.
Third, Black's Knight is useful for blocking bank-rank checks at <f8> since its
protected by the Queen; However, an immediate <Nf8> (to counter a White Knight
incursion at <e6>) would be a huge blunder due to <Qg8 mate> 1st candidate: 26.Re6 sees thru the Black Queen targeting <g6> (1) <26.Re6 Bxe6 27.Re6> Threatens 28.Nxg6+; meanwhile the Black Queen
needs a safe square
<27...Qf5> Probably best; If 27...Qf8, 28.Nxg6+ forks the Queen <28.Nxg6+ Kg7> forced <29.Qc7+ Rd7 30.Qxd7+> (Here, my visualization waffled; I just felt it was crushing)
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Post-Mortem Notes: Had the right attack plan, but played a weaker defense for
Black.
Also, my note 'forced' on 28...Kg7 was for the wrong reason: I thought <g8>
was prohibited for the Black King; however he could move there since the White
rook blocks the diagonal. With that said, 28...Kg7 was "forced" since 28...Kg8
is crushed by 29.Re8++ Kg7 30.Qg8 mate or 29.Ne7+ forking the Black Queen |
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| Nov-30-12 | | fokers13: Rac8 wasn't really a defense so meh.
Puzzle was Wednesday level at best. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | Abdel Irada: The key move appears to be <26. Re6!>, attacking the queen and pressuring g6 for a winning attack on the king. I am, however, still cataloguing variations, of which there are many. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | et 9: I was seeing 26.Re7 as a better square for the rook as it is a less tactical situation while the idea of hogs on the seventh could be entertained. No need to give up the exchange unless warranted, right?! Common lately in my assessments is that I see 'pressure' on the board as a higher weight value than seizing the moment with valid and present 'tactical' options. (as in this game) Thanks for helping... |
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| Nov-30-12 | | Dr. J: I don't think you can claim credit for solving this one if you didn't consider moves like 27...Rac8 (or 26...Rac8). The move 28 Qb5 is not so easy to find! I had thought the win was 28 Qd3, but that can be countered by 28...Rc3 29 Qb1 Rxb3! and the result is still uncertain. General principle: You haven't found the best attack if you haven't considered the best defenses. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | chrisowen: I fair enough in muffed 26.re6 feign bishop in g4 under the cosh
queenf6 light laud over fifthed rank long diagonal a2 g8 and
in sixth he file knight in f4 cleric 26...Bxe6 27.Rxe6
festooned in attacking options as g6 falls too f4 or e6 mind you
picking c8 emirate in cover c4 play here to another square b5 us
exactly it manage in getting line of fertile 27...rac8 28.Qb5 a6
meat the threat in what else useless c1 check dim views kingg2 out of trouble game friend white, so black has to depart with his queen if upstaged 28...rd6 learn the lingo a6 way miles apart in yeah it
about in b6 leaves little choice in the matter rib lesson dont go
chasing food around queenside then expose a weakness in effect
26.re6 strength wave in zip g6 a foot me rook up acrossing 29.Qb6 rc6 30.Nxg6+. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | kevin86: The queen is overworked at the game must fall! |
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| Nov-30-12 | | xthred: I enjoy everyone's contributions at this site. Chess is such a beautiful game. Alas, I haven't the brain to play well. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | doubledrooks: After 24. Re6 Bxe6 25. Rxe6 Rac8 I went with 26. Qb4. It seems to be as good as Shevelev's 26. Qb5, but I could be mistaken. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | jovack: Very complex tactical position. I particularly liked Qb5 |
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| Nov-30-12 | | MountainMatt: What would happen if white went ahead and played 28. Nxg6+? |
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| Nov-30-12 | | Patriot: I looked at this earlier today and had to come back to it. 26.Re6 is the only thing I'm finding that may win. 26.Re6 Bxe6 27.Rxe6
27...Qf7 28.Nxg6+ Kg8 (28...Kg7 29.Re7 Qxe7 30.Nxe7  ) 29.Re8+! Rxe8 30.Qxf7# 27...Qf5 28.Nxg6+ Kg7 (28...Kg8 29.Ne7+ and 30.Nxf5 is good enough) 29.Qc7+ Kg8 30.Re8# ------
I missed the Rc8 threat. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | agb2002: White is a pawn down.
Black threatens 26... Bxe2 and ... Ng5.
The position of the black queen invites to play 26.Re6, aiming at g6: A) 26... Bxe6 27.Rxe6
A.1) 27... Qf5 28.Nxg6+ Kg8 (28... Kg7 29.Qc7+ Kg8 30.Re8#) 29.Re8+ Kg7 30.Qg8+ Kf7 31.Qf7+ Kg5 32.h4+ Kg4 33.Bd1+ and mate soon. A.2) 27... Qf7 28.Nxg6+ Kg7 (28... Kg8 29.Re7 Qxc4 30.Bxc4+ Rd5 31.Bxd5#) 29.Re7 wins. A.3) 27... Qg5 28.Nxg6+ is similar to A.1.
A.4) 27... Rac8 28.Qb4 Qf7 29.Nxg6+ Kg7 30.Re7 wins.
A.5) 27... Rdc8 28.Qb4 is similar to A.4.
A.6) 27... b5 28.Qxb5 Rab8 29.Qc6 Rdc8 30.Rxf6 Rxc6 31.Rxc6 and White has an extra bishop. B) 26... Ra(d)c8 27.Rxf6 Rxc4 28.Rxg6 Rc5 29.Rxg4 + - [B]. Other lines are similar to those after A) 26... Bxe6. -------------
Another option is 26.Re7, threatening Rf7. For example, 26... Rac8 27.Qb4 Ng5 28.Qxb7 d3 29.h4 d2 30.Rf1 Re8 31.hxg5 Rxe7 32.Qxc8+ Bxc8 33.gxf6 winning. |
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| Nov-30-12 | | M.Hassan: Difficult
White to play 26.?
White is a pawn down.
I had a gut feeling that White should occupy the 7th rank: 26.Re7 Ng5
27.Qc7 Nf3+
28.Kh1
Rook to h7 and Black is check mated.So, I think it's best for Knight to go back!
No other continuation i see with the time I have available |
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| Dec-01-12 | | stst: "Difficult" - not quite this time?
Try to harass the Q:
26.Re6 BxR
27.RxB if (A)Qf5
28.NxP+ Kg8
29.Ne7+ forks and the Q is lost.
if 27.(B).....Qf7
28.NxP+ Kg8
29.Re8+ RxR
30.QxQ#
see other combinations will also lose the Q, rest is ... Not "Difficult" ~ but of course I may miss something in between!! |
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| Dec-01-12 | | Abdel Irada: I have reached the decision that I cannot afford the time to catalogue all the variations in puzzles like this one (merely comparing variations where Black takes the exchange on e6 at different points in the combination makes for many lines of analysis), and I am now trying to decide how to handle this. In future, I will very probably restrict myself to examining only the strongest defenses, with a brief explanation if necessary of why I think they *are* the strongest, and give short shrift to the others. Being the perfectionist I am, this mislikes me deeply, but I have to respect my other obligations and interests, and posting multi-page solutions is simply no longer practicable for me. My apologies. |
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Jan-27-17
 | | GrahamClayton: Amusing final position, with Black and White pieces alternating on the 6th rank:
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sac: 26.Re6