| Nov-16-04 | | Knight13: If 19. hxg3, 19... Bxf3 and White is lost. Very skillful attacks by Bird. |
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 | | beatgiant: < If 19. hxg3, 19... Bxf3 and White is lost. > Can you explain the follow-up? For example, what if 19. hxg3 ♗xf3 20. ♖xf3 . I don't see a win for Black, but there is a draw by 19. hxg3 ♕xg3+ 20. ♔h1 ♕h3+ with perpetual check. White avoids this to play for a win, since he can get two pawns for the exchange with an exposed Black king. |
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| Nov-16-04 | | Knight13: Then what's with 19. Rf2? Is he trying to lose the exchange? And the move 19... Bxf3 is a mistake. I didn't realize the bishop on e2. Sorry. |
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| | beatgiant: <Then what's with 19. Rf2? Is he trying to lose the exchange?> Black was threatening ...♕xh2#, and the only other defense 19. hxg3 allows a draw as I showed in my previous post. So 19. ♖f2 is the only way to play for a win. |
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| Nov-16-04 | | Knight13: <beatgiant> Oh yeah. Qxh2#. If White didn't play f3, then Qg2#. So either way white will lose the exchange. That's a terrible position, I might think, if I was in that game. |
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| Dec-11-04 | | Chessmaster 9000: Slightly better is 27. Qf4. 27... g6 28. Bd3 Qh5 29. Bb6 Ra8 30. Re1 Qg5 (Time=O:12, Depth=1/8) Slightly better is 36. Qf8. 36... Ref7 37. Bxg7 Rxf8 38. Bxf8 Qf7 39. Bd6 Qxa2 40. Rg1 Kg6 (Time=0:12, Depth=1/8)
Slightly better is 12. Bf3. 12... Nc5 13. Qxg7 O-O-O 14. Be3 Kb8 15. Qc3 Ne4 16. Qa5 (Time=0:15, Depth=1/8) |
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| Dec-11-04 | | Chessmaster 9000: 16... Kc7 falls into 17. Bb6+ Kd7 18. Qxb7+ Ke8 19. f3 Bxg3 20. Rf2 Bxf2+ 21. Bxf2 Qh5 22. Bb6 Qg5+ 23. Kh1 Bd5 24. Bxd8 Qxd8 (Time=0:34, Depth=1/9) 44... Qd1 45. Qd7+ Kf6 46. Qc6+ Kg7 47. h3 g4 48. Qd7+ Kf6 49. Qd8+ Kg7 50. Qd4+ Kf7 51. Qxg4 Qxg4 52. hxg4 Ke6 (Time=0:17, Depth 2/9) |
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| Sep-09-05 | | Jaymthetactician: Wait a minute? Bird actually defeated Anderssen? I cant stand these poor quality games. |
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| Sep-09-05 | | RookFile: If you say so. I played over this, and don't have the slightest idea what is going on. It seems incredibly complex, and you need a computer to wade through all the variations. |
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| Sep-09-05 | | Jaymthetactician: yeah more complex then it needs to be, a computer would simplify everything to an advantage. |
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| Sep-09-05 | | CapAnson: Keep in mind in those days they didn't really have clocks of strict time controls so they would sit at the board pondering these positions for godawful amounts of time. |
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| Sep-10-05 | | Jaymthetactician: So in other words they would play like begginners with our time controls? I can imagine Bird at some open nowadays losing in less then 20 moves every time. |
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| Sep-10-05 | | TheSlid: "Dead men won't win" as Pete Sinfield once wrote. |
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| Oct-29-07 | | Morphyisgod: I find it interesting that Bird had a winning record on Anderssen, Anderssen had a winning record on Blackburne, and Blackburne had a winning record on Bird, could someone comment on this, maybe give a theroy as to why. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | 4play: GAME OVER 1-0
You scored a total of 90 points ... I think I understand Bird like a mother understands her child ... for 1000 rating I did pretty well .. lol |
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| Nov-01-16 | | Aunt Jemima: Bird racks one up against the great Anderson by pressing his attack very carefully. Nice play. It looked a little hairy after 38...Rxf3 but old Bird had it worked out. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 19.Rf2