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Alexander McDonnell vs Louis Charles Mahe De La Bourdonnais
"Labourdonnais Picnic" (game of the day Sep-03-2012)
La Bourdonnais - McDonnell 4th Casual Match (1834), London ENG, rd 16
Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. Open (B32)  ·  0-1



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Jun-28-15  Shoukhath007: the end position was 3 pawns on the 7th rank watch the video step by step analysis
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  Domdaniel: <welhelm> - < i studied it well and it is one of games that changed my style> Interesting. You mean that you consciously gave up a modern style and switched to an 1830s style of play? Is that even possible?

In an another sphere, we can admire Shakespeare or Milton, but literally trying to write in their manner would be quite odd.

I suppose that games like this might inspire one to be more direct, more tactical. But the naïve, if brilliant, style on show here can't really be replicated.

There's a story by Borges, about a man who sets out to rewrite Don Quixote, word for word -- Pierre Menard. It seems relevant.

Nov-24-15  Marmot PFL: <Domdaniel> Ever seen the book of Mormon? 19th century religion written in 16th century English (an obvious imitation of the KJV Bible).
Nov-24-15  Robed.Bishop: Perhaps <welhelm1982> IS Pierre Menard.
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  Domdaniel: <Marmot> Yeah, I've actually read (some of) the Book of Mormon. I thought it was a fascinating read -- so clearly derived from the King James Bible, with a dash of 19th century mystic history.

And there are still people who regard it as being divinely inspired. Just as people do with the Bible, Quran, Torah, etc. In defiance of textual analysis.

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  Domdaniel: <Robed.Bishop> Now you're giving me ideas for a story... "<welhelm1982, Winner of a Match with LaBourdonnais>...
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  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game:
Jun-03-16  The Kings Domain: Nice, pretty complex game by the two leading masters of their day, capped by the famous pawn march.

Chessgames should create a page for the landmark De la Bourdonnais-McDonnell match in the Tournament Index section of the site. I'm surprised it still hasn't been done yet.

Jul-30-16  Tal1949: I still do not get it. McDonnell plays 25.Rc2 and does not follow it up with 26. Rf2. Instead he moves the King and weakens his position dramatically. What was he thinking?
Jul-30-16  Ultra: <The Kings Domain: Nice, pretty complex game by the two leading masters of their day, capped by the famous pawn march.

Chessgames should create a page for the landmark De la Bourdonnais-McDonnell match in the Tournament Index section of the site. I'm surprised it still hasn't been done yet.>

A motion has been advanced and I second it!

Oct-28-16  clement41: Astonishing early Sveshnikov! Def deserves more fame
May-08-17  MichaelAndrewLo: A wonderful analysis

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  ChessCoachClark: <morphynoman2: In "Kasparov Teaches Chess", the former World Champion says about the final position of this game: "This position, where the small pawns were victorious over the enemy, was so surprising that it seemed like a fairy tale and I was unable to live without chess after seeing it. I have admired this position ever since". (Kasparov was then 6 years old)"> I have read this book and found this game intriguing as well as a motivator to beginners. Nunn and abhor reliance upon games before 1999, but true gems must be promoted. Yes!
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  0ZeR0: In my estimation this is the most ideal game ever played. I never tire of it.
Jan-30-19  Damenlaeuferbauer: The first immortal game in the history of chess. The modern dynamic of black's play is astounishing - this could be a game, which is played by two GMs/IMs today in an open or robin-round tournament all over the world (of course not a super-elite event). Every chess player in past and present would be very proud to play such a game from the black side of the board.
Feb-02-19  Albanius: I don't think a modern GM would play 5 Nxc6, losing a net tempo (three N moves to one plus the pawn capture) while giving B a extra center P. The eventual punishment more than fit the latter positional crime.
Feb-03-19  Damenlaeuferbauer: <Albanius> In principle you are right, but in fact the two GMs Bozidar Ivanovic (Yugoslavia/Montenegro) and Ratmir Kholmov (Soviet Union / Russia) [both rated over Elo 2500] played 5. Nxc6. Just for the records, after 1. e4,c5 2. Nf3,Nc6 3. d4,cxd4 4. Nxd4,Nf6 5. Nc3,d6 6. Bc4,Qb6 later WC Anatoly Karpov played 7. Nxc6 (A. Karpov - Leonid Stein, 39th Soviet Championship Leningrad 1971, 1-0). In my only tournament game with the Sicilian Kalashnikov 1993, White also played 5. Nxc6 followed by Nc3, Bc4 and Bg5, I was unable to win with the black pieces and finally lucky with a draw.
Sep-15-19  RandomVisitor: After 21...Kh8

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Others have suggested the improvement 22.Nd6

After 22.Nd6 Bxd6 23.Ba4 Qxc5 24.Qxc5 Bxc5

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<50/93 1:20:25 -0.35 25.Rxc5> Re7 26.f4 exf4 27.Rxd4 g6 28.Rxf4 Rd8 29.Rc1 Re2 30.Rc2 Re1+ 31.Rf1 Re4 32.Rc7 Bd5 33.b3 Rd4 34.Bc6 Bxc6 35.Rxc6 Rd2 36.Rf2 Rxf2 37.Kxf2 Rd2+ 38.Kg3 Rxa2 39.Rc7 a4 40.bxa4 Rxa4 41.Kf3 h5 42.g3 Kg8 43.Rd7 Re4 44.Rc7 Kf8 45.h4 Re7 46.Rc4 Kg7 47.Kf4 Kh6 48.Kf3 Re1 49.Kf2 Rd1 50.Kg2 Kg7 51.Ra4

49/83 1:20:25 -0.65 25.Bxe8 Bb6 26.Bc6 Ba6 27.Kh1 g6 28.h3 Rf6 29.Ba8 Be2 30.Rd2 Bb5 31.b3 Rf8 32.Bb7 Rb8 33.a4 Be8 34.Bd5 Rd8 35.Bb7 Bf7 36.Rc6 Ba7 37.Ra6 Bc5 38.Rd3 Bb4 39.Rb6 Rd7 40.g4 Re7 41.gxf5 gxf5 42.Ba6 Kg7 43.f4 e4 44.Rxb4 exd3 45.Rxd4 Re4 46.Rxd3 Rb4 47.Kg2 Bxb3 48.Kg3 Bxa4 49.Rd5 Bc6 50.Rd6 Rb3+ 51.Kf2 Rb2+ 52.Kg3 Rg2+ 53.Kh4 Be4 54.Rd7+ Kf6 55.Bc4

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  GrahamClayton: <Phony Benoni> "Black has accomplished nothing but giving up queens on three successive moves. An interesting achivement, but otherwise it's hasta la vista."

<Phony Benoni>
The two white rooks capture on e1, and the two black pawns capture and promote on e1, all in the space of just two moves.

Oct-01-19  spingo: <Ultra: <The Kings Domain: ... Chessgames should create a page for the landmark De la Bourdonnais-McDonnell match in the Tournament Index section of the site. I'm surprised it still hasn't been done yet.>

A motion has been advanced and I second it!>

The trouble is, they did not play one match, they played about 6 matches totaling about 87 games. That makes it a lot of work, especially as resolving correct dates would be tedious.

Jun-18-20  MordimerChess: There were couple of ways for McDonnel to draw the game, for example: 25. Rf1 Qe3+ 26. Kh1 fxg2+ 27. Kxg2 Rxe8 28. cxb7=

or move later:
26. Rf2 Ba6 27. Qxa6 Bc5 28. Qf1 d32 9. Rxd3 Qg5 30. Kh1 Bxf2 31. Rxf3 Rxf3 32. gxf3 Bb6=

Interesting is that 25. Rc2 was losing but only to mentioned above 25...Ba6!!

My detailed video analysis:

Only for fans of classics, take your time :D

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  kingscrusher: For some weird reason as of 8th Nov 2020, when I do "view PGN" on a desktop , I get:

" [Event "London m4; HCL 18"]
["London ENG" site]
[Date "1834. ??. ??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Alexander McDonnell"]
[Black "Louis Charles Mahe De La Bourdonnais"]
[ECO "B32"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "74"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5.Nxc6 bxc6 6.Bc4 Nf6 7.Bg5 Be7 8.Qe2 d5 9.Bxf6 Bxf6 10.Bb3 OO 11.OO a5 12.exd5 cxd5 13.Rd1 d4 14.c4 Qb6 15.Bc2 Bb7 16.Nd2 Rae8 17.Ne4 Bd8 18.c5 Qc6 19.f3 Be7 20.Rac1 f5 21.Qc4 + Kh8 22.Ba4 Qh6 23.Bxe8 fxe4 24.c6 exf3 25.Rc2 Qe3 + 26.Kh1 Bc8 27.Bd7 f2 28.Rf1 d3 29.Rc3 Bxd7 30.cxd7 e4 31.Qc8 Bd8 32.Qc4 Qe1 33.Rc1 d2 34.Qc5 Kg8 35.Rd1 e3 36.Qc3 Qxd1 37.Rxd1 e2 0-1

Which shows 34.Qc5 Kg8

instead of 34.Qc5 Rg8

Does anyone else see this issue?!

Also it is OO instead of O-O in the above PGN

However on my TV web browser, it is fine. Strange.

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<Tryfon> Good to see you around here so often again! I hope you are well.

I am having much fun playing correspondence tournaments on thank you for hosting!

Yes I am getting the same bug from my desktop computer as you report here.

I know that the new technicians are currently beta testing some code having to do with the pgns, so I hope this glitch is only temporary.

Your report on this page clearly identifies a pgn bug though and is of general interest to the administration. I will email one of the techs now and make sure he is aware of this new development.

Thank you!

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  kingscrusher: Jessica thanks

I should also point out the " +" should not have a preceding space before the "+" sign.

Cheers, Tryfon

Jul-19-22  LoveThatJoker: Game twenty from the 1869 book "Chess Brilliants" by John Odin Howard Taylor.


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