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Boris Spassky vs Sergey Avtonomov
"Junior Mint" (game of the day Mar-21-2008)
Leningrad Junior Championship (1949), Leningrad URS, Mar-??
Queen's Gambit Accepted: Classical Defense. Alekhine System (D28)  ·  1-0

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Mar-01-14  MarkFinan: So given all the following comments can we now say that for once <Lennonfan> was innocent? I see nothing derogatory in the mans comments, leave the handsome genius alone, lol. #FreeLennonfan 😃

I should start a campaign 😃

Mar-01-14  john barleycorn: <Lennonfan> te absolvo
Mar-02-14
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  keypusher: <MarkFinan> No, he's not innocent. He wrote:

<Lennonfan: How is 12.d5 bordering on an outright win here for white? Providing black plays N.b4 on move 11...>

Black did play 11....Nb4, White duly played 12.d5 and crushed him. So the answer to <how is 12.d5 bordering on a win for White> is provided by the game itself, at least provisionally. If lennonfan thought there was a defense after that, he should have provided some moves.

Mar-02-14  john barleycorn: <keypusher> "te absolvo" was meant a joke. Nb4 would have been a good move if Nbd5 could follow with blocking the d pawn. With d5! black has to take the pawn and ends up in a threefold bind after 12.Bg5. Probably, it was better for black to play 10.Be7 and go for castling than playing 10.Bb7. As played in the game black can never finish his development by castling.

By the way, do you know a bit Avtonomov?

Mar-02-14  MarkFinan: <keypusher: <MarkFinan> No, he's not innocent. He wrote: <Lennonfan: How is 12.d5 bordering on an outright win here for white? Providing black plays N.b4 on move 11...>

Black did play 11....Nb4, White duly played 12.d5 and crushed him. So the answer to <how is 12.d5 bordering on a win for White> is provided by the game itself, at least provisionally. If lennonfan thought there was a defense after that, he should have provided some moves.>

So asking a question about a move, and suggesting a move, make poor Lennonfan a guilty man?

Mar-02-14  RedShield: Some people say Timothy McVeigh was innocent too.
Mar-02-14  MarkFinan: <RedShield: Some people say Timothy McVeigh was innocent too.>

Some people out in nutterweb world might think that I gave a rats round ronnie that an anonymous handle that keeps thinking by changing the name of his handle on a yearly basis makes him somehow *not* appear an insane person, think that I Mark Finan look like Terrorist Timothy McVeighs evil twin brother .. But they would be wrong. However im not above arguing pointlessly with you, so the floors yours, let's hear what you have to say? Unlike you I feel comfortable in my own skin, I don't and never have wanted to hide who I am because feel no shame in looking like some evil terrorists better looking brother 😃😃

Mar-02-14  MarkFinan: <MarkFinan: <keypusher: <MarkFinan> No, he's not innocent. He wrote: <Lennonfan: How is 12.d5 bordering on an outright win here for white? Providing black plays N.b4 on move 11...> Black did play 11....Nb4, White duly played 12.d5 and crushed him. So the answer to <how is 12.d5 bordering on a win for White> is provided by the game itself, at least provisionally. If lennonfan thought there was a defense after that, he should have provided some moves.>

So asking a question about a move, and suggesting a move, make poor Lennonfan a guilty man?>

And Keypusher.. You just can't answer that with any conviction in believing what you're actually saying!? Truth is there is nothing wrong with asking a question no matter who asked the aforementioned question. You can't possibly believe that when I asked that question I was "not innocent!" #numptie

Mar-02-14  RedShield: Things could be worse. You might look like John Lennon.
Mar-02-14  MarkFinan: <RedShield: Things could be worse. You might look like John Lennon.>

So fast,, quick witted and sharp LOL 😃

Go back to sleep Redmist you're a seedier version of... Jim Bartle, haha 😃

Mar-02-14
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  perfidious: Fool that I am, I always thought <Mark> resembled this third cousin of McVeigh.

Shows what I know.

Mar-02-14  MarkFinan: Perf.. All I know is that the guy must be a funny, charming, intelligent and very good looking relative of the terrorist bloke 😃😃
Mar-02-14
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  keypusher: <MarkFinan> Well, that's why I (and Shams, it looks like) are puzzled. The move you are apparently suggesting (11....Nb4) is what Black actually played. Spassky responded with 12.d5! and crushed him.

Usually if someone writes something <How is 12.d5 bordering on an outright win here for White?> and White won in a few moves, you expect them to suggest some alternative for Black after move 12.

Mar-02-14  Shams: <keypusher><Well, that's why I (and Shams, it looks like) are puzzled.>

I never know how to conjugate the verb in sentences like this. Drives me nuts.

Mar-02-14
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  keypusher: <shams> They say there isn't a correct answer, but you're allowed to follow your ear.
Mar-29-15  A.T PhoneHome: Avtonomov's King can move in the ending position, sure. But he'll be checkmated from a dark square, no matter what.

Playing 35...Kf8 is even more painful for Black as then White will simply play 36.Qxh8#; Rook taken and mate delivered.

Gorgeous play by young Spassky!

Dec-03-15  diagonalley: 19.RxP .... dead easy for a thursday :-)
Dec-03-15
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: For me, the only surprise was the fact that the opening was *not* a Sicilian Richter-Rauzer.
Dec-03-15
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  al wazir: Black doesn't have to accept the sac. How does white win after 19...Qc7 ? If, e.g., 20. Rad1, then 20...Re8 21. Rd7 Qe5. Now what?
Dec-03-15
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  Penguincw: Hmm, this game had a lot of comments posted recently...

Anyway, this week is looking like a reverse week. I missed the Monday and Tuesday puzzles, but got the Wednesday and Thursday puzzles!

Here, I saw 19.Rxd5, and calculated up to 19...Qxd5 20.Qxe7 Kg8 21.Qxf6. To my surprise, 19...Qxd5 was played, but I thought black would decline the rook. I also didn't calculate what would happen if say 21...Rh7, but I see 22.Ne7+ (using "e8").

Sure, I didn't calculate all the variations, but since that's all she wrote, I technically got the puzzle!

Dec-03-15  Nick46: to THEGOODANARCHIST I did answer your question the other day. See POTD for 30 Nov.
Dec-03-15  stst: Wild guess at 19.Rxd5 to challenge the Q first...
(A)
..... QxR
20.Qxe7+ Kg8
21.Qxf6 Kf8 (Ne7 forks or Qg7#)
22.Re1 Rg8/h7 (else Qg7#)
23.Qe7#

(B)...... Qc7/c8
20.Qxe7+ followed by Rd7

(C)..... Qe8 (most passive)
20.R1d1 and Rd7 next

see what this Champ got better

Dec-03-15  OlymposGR: Easy and obvious!
Dec-03-15  agb2002: I know this game.
Dec-03-15  Doktorn: Got 19. Rxd5 Qxd5 and the line ending with the knight fork of the queen and king which made me pretty sure 19. Rxd5 was the right first move. But like other has commented I didn't see any direct winning combination if black declines the rock sacrifice with Qc7 (or even the dangerous looking Qe8). But a pawn is always a pawn I guess and with equal material, more active rocks and better pawn structure it is clear white is playing for the win.
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