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Shakhriyar Mamedyarov vs Veselin Topalov
Essent Tournament (2006), Hoogeveen NED, rd 1, Oct-22
Semi-Slav Defense: Meran. Wade Variation Larsen Variation (D47)  ·  1-0

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Oct-22-06  ahmadov: <Milo> <I guess I'm one of those people who likes to think that sponsors deserve the maximum number of moves for their money> ...and chess fans for their time.
Oct-23-06  Bufon: <acirce35..Rxc8 36.Rxc8 Rxd6! 37.exd6 Qd2 forcing a perpetual was a fairly easy draw>

This is the kind of recomendations one would expect from a Kramnik fan, finding the draw lines, thanks to God, Topalov is no Drawmnik.

He gave us a nice defeat by the hands of a young prodigy instead of a draw by repetition.

Oct-23-06  Hesam7: <Bufon: He gave us a nice defeat by the hands of a young prodigy instead of a draw by repetition.>

LoL.

Oct-23-06  positionalbrilliancy: <He gave us a nice defeat by the hands of a young prodigy instead of a draw by repetition.>It's very hard to believe that anyone can say this and mean it.
Oct-23-06  ahmadov: <Bufon><He gave us a nice defeat by the hands of a young prodigy instead of a draw by repetition> ... Let nice victories be always for Mamedyarov :) (I deemed unethical to write "...and nice defeats for Topalov" despite the fact that I hated his behaviour in Elista)
Oct-23-06  whiskeyrebel: this is Buffoon's finest hour; arguably the most far-fetched rationalization of a loss in the history of this website. Congrats.
Oct-23-06  Bufon: My point is, he did avoid the drawing lines and he lose cause of that, but this is chess... the other guy played better

I admire players who fight a game till the end, even with riks of losing, instead of finding a draw by repetition, like Drawmnik does.

And as my friend <notyetam> pointed out, this guy is a very good player, and losing with black for Topalov, is not a bad thing.

Oct-23-06  FHBradley: Mamedyarov-Topalov 1-0, extremely doubtful. We're not claiming anything, of course, but we are currently analyzing the events to determine whether this calls for any further actions.
Oct-23-06  Sannder: Just a question: What if 35. Qxe6 after 36...Qxg5?

Oct-23-06  Confuse: rationalization of a loss? why does he have to rationalize it? Topalov lost, congratulations to Mamedyarov. end of story
Oct-23-06  TylerD: One of the most exciting players in th etop 20, scores beautifully. M has a lot of sharp sacrifices in him, just waiting to explode on the board, via his fingertips...
Oct-23-06  gus inn: you have nice points <Bufon> but -Nf4 is still a very bad move and directly loosing.There is a thin line between fightingchess and naive behaviuor. And youve better find out , were your man belongs in this game.
Oct-23-06  Lt. Col. Majid: Topalov's defence is very 2600 even sometimes 2500.

A 2800 player who defends like a 2600.

Alas! His fans hide this weakness behind the mask of "fighting chess". How nice :P

Oct-23-06
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  chancho: When Capablanca saw that the position he was playing was getting complicated or dangerous, he would aim to draw the game. Playing on, in a drawn position like Topalov does,is a courageous thing. (Fischer and Lasker were two players who played like that) But if taken too far, it can result in unnecessary defeats.
Oct-23-06  Lt. Col. Majid: <chancho: Playing on, in a drawn position like Topalov does,is a courageous thing.>

It is a double-edged sword.

If u win, then it is courageous but if u lose then it is poor judgement.

Oct-23-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <Rfa8 <I was watching the game live, and it would of never entered my head to double rooks on the 'a' file. Whatever Topalov had planned down the 'a' file, it just didn't happen.>> This move looks purely defensive move to me. Anyway, black had hardly anything significantly better there.
Oct-23-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <Sannder: Just a question: What if 35. Qxe6 after 36...Qxg5?> Do you mean 34...Qxg5 35.Qxe6? Black can play 35...Nf4 (threatening Qxg2# or Nxe6) 36.Qxf5+ Qxf5 37.Nxf5 Ne2+ 38.Kf1 Nxc1 39.Rxc1 white with exchange for 2 Pawns.
Oct-23-06  Ezzy: <Honza Cervenka: This move looks purely defensive move to me. Anyway, black had hardly anything significantly better there.> Yes, very untypical of Topalov. He created nothing of any worth in this game. Always on the defensive, which he did way below his usual standard.
Oct-23-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <Ezzy> Everybody has to defend sometimes, especially with black pieces and Topalov did not defend this one so bad after all. 35...Nf4 was a mistake but not an obvious one. As you and <acirce> have pointed out, 35...Rxc8 36.Rxc8 Rxd6! 37.exd6 Qd2 38.g3 Nf4+ 39.Kh2 (39.gxf4 Qg4+) 39...Qf3 gives black perpetual check.
Oct-23-06  Karpova: <Bufon>'s favourite player: Trinks never went for the <boring> perpetual but fought bravely till the end
Oct-23-06  Shajmaty: <percyblakeney: 35. ... Nf4 was a mistake by Topalov, exchanging rooks followed by Nxe5 would have been better.> Exchanging rooks followed by 36...Rxd6! (but I don't believe it's "fairly easy", <Libar>).

Furthermore, 33...Be8 is more a natural defence than 33...Ng6. Topalov plays great attacking chess, but is not a good defender, definitely.

Oct-24-06  Sularus: <Karpova: <Bufon>'s favourite player: Trinks never went for the <boring> perpetual but fought bravely till the end>

LOL !!

Mar-27-07
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  LIFE Master AJ: I finally got around to posting this game. (http://www.geocities.com/thegotmman...) A little late, to say the least!!
Apr-29-07  Gilmoy: <Majid> Many thanks for the YouTube link -- now I will waste a week watching chess clips :)

Fascinating to put faces (and body language!) to the names. I love the crystal chess sets on the serving carts. YouTube rejects URLs in comments, so I couldn't backlink to here. It's fun to follow along:

(1:04) 1 .. d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nc3 -- at book speed.
(1:55) 9 .. b5 10 Na4 c5.
(2:28) 27 h4.
(3:12) 41 Rc7 -- you can see Mamedyarov's Q on h8.
(4:39) 42 .. Qh5+ 43 Qxh5+ Nxh5.
(4:53) Mamedyarov puts his pen down from writing "Nxh5" ... (5:08) ... and 44 Re7 winning a pawn (that wins the game) -- in only 15(!!) seconds. (5:35) Topalov thinking ...
(5:39) 47 .. Topalov offers a handshake on his own move, 0-1.

Jan-14-09  WhiteRook48: don't you mean 1-0, since Topalov was Black?
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