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Veselin Topalov vs Ivan Sokolov
Corus Group A (2006), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 7, Jan-21
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense (C78)  ·  1-0

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Jan-21-06  Woodpusher: If there was a distant perpetual check in the position its possible that the computers are missing it. That's Black's only hope at this stage.
Jan-21-06  RubinsteinAK: If Sokolov has calculated something very deep here, and is actually winning this game, the comments of derision and calls for resignation will remind me of the Fischer-Byrne story, where all of the GM commentators in the kibitz room thought Byrne was winning and he resigned due to a tactic of Fischer's that none of them saw. I daresay there isn't a GM in this lot today.
Jan-21-06  THE pawn: Cmaster 9k gives: 3.10-3.82
Jan-21-06
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  ketchuplover: What was wrong with 28Qe1?
Jan-21-06  Hoozits: That's a good point, Woodpusher. My experience with CM9000 is that it often overlooks perpetual check situations, perhaps because it's only interested in winning combinations?!
Jan-21-06
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  keypusher: <jhoro> Fritz 8 analysis of the alternative at move 20:

Topalov - Sokolov


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20...fxe5 21.hxg4 exd4 22.Nxd4 Bxa4 23.Rxa4 Bxd4
² (0.37) Depth: 14/14 00:00:00 312kN

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Jan-21-06  THE pawn: <Rubinstein> They didn't have comp way back then.
Jan-21-06  TheKid: <RubinsteinAK> Unfortunately every kibitzer runs to their computer to eliminate the excitement.
Jan-21-06
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  keypusher: <RubinsteinAK> There may be no GMs here, but there were no engines in 1963.
Jan-21-06  cuendillar: Sokolov going for cheap threats now? Ng3# is a bit too obvious a try.
Jan-21-06  winter 1963: Morning, Rubinstein.
Jan-21-06  Judge Ling: Yes I agree totally with The Kid. What happened to using your own grey cells!!
Jan-21-06  winter 1963: <cuendillar> "Sokolov going for cheap threats now? Ng3# is a bit too obvious a try."

With his reduced army, there are only so many threats he can make before white completely consolidates :)

Jan-21-06  Hoozits: 30. ...., Be3?!
Jan-21-06  Ulhumbrus: It could be that Sokolov intended actually to play 20...fxe5 but touched accidentally the knight first instead.
Jan-21-06  Averageguy: 30...Re8 in preparation for 31...Nh4 might be the last gasp.
Jan-21-06  jhoro: he definitely made it exciting. would've been fun if could pull "a topalov" on Topalov
Jan-21-06  artemis: Sokolov is doing his best to take advantage of white's displaced army here. The queenside bishop and knight are having no effect on the kingside right now, so He is basically playing with equal material on the kingside. Over there, he also has an open king to attack. These are the few trumps in Sokolov's position. Topalov has reinforcements on the way, if he can get the time to deploy them. He also has a lot more time on his clock too, so that can't hurt. Sokolov needs these "cheap tricks" inorder to keep the initiative. Ng3# is a kind of obvious attack, but it still needs to be countered.
Jan-21-06  Averageguy: What about 31.Qd2 here?
Jan-21-06  whatthefat: I guess Sokolov can be content in the fact that he restricted Topalov from sacrificing, for the first time in a while!
Jan-21-06  cuendillar: <Averageguy: 30...Re8 in preparation for 31...Nh4 might be the last gasp.> This is well met by 32.Qxh4+ Kg8 33.Qxe8+
Jan-21-06  Averageguy: Sorry, 31...e3.
Jan-21-06  TheKid: 31.Qd2 then maybe ....e3 ?
Jan-21-06  vampir: Qe5 1-0
Jan-21-06  srs555: Qd2- and then Ng3+ and black wins the queen
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