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Eric Schiller vs Howery Pack
"April Fool's Mate" (game of the day Apr-01-2008)
Port Washington (skittles) (1969), Port Washington, WI USA
King Pawn Game: Parham Attack (C20)  ·  1-0

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Aug-06-13  GumboGambit: According to Rybka, things started going downhill for Black with Ke7.
Aug-06-13
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  alexmagnus: <But, although statistically some of us must also have been on the white side, I doubt we'll see anyone admit it.>

Didn't some of the world champs (Tal? Petrosian?) admit to have lost his very first game by Fool's Mate? Which is quite a distinguishment, as most beginners record their first mating loss to the other short mate, the Scholar's one.

Aug-06-13
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  perfidious: <alexmagnus>: Believe Tal mentioned in an interview that he came to an end in his very first game by Scholar's Mate.
Oct-11-13
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  Domdaniel: I got mated in six moves in my first game for my school team - a version of Scholar's Mate, as I recall. I only scraped back onto the team for the next match because somebody was ill -- but I won it, and won all my other games, and was top board by the end of the season. Maybe I should've quit while I was (just one) behind.
Oct-20-13  kramputz: Waste of space
Mar-07-14
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  FSR: Bronstein remarks, "The most pleasant variation of the Queen's Attack for White is as follows: 2.Q-R5 K-K2 3.QxKP mate." <200 Open Games>, p. 1.
Mar-07-17  paavoh: <I have actually played this game: 1.g4 e5 2.f3 ♕h4#. To make things clear: I was black.>

I was also on the winning side in a high school casual game. My opponent was always eager to attack and he opened with 1.f4. I replied meekly with 1.- e6. He exclaimed "More attack!" and played 2.g4. I played 2.-Qh4 and said "I agree!"

Apr-30-18
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  Richard Taylor: A beautiful and profound game.
Apr-30-18  Count Wedgemore: <Richard Taylor: A beautiful and profound game.>

Yes, the courage shown by the black king is an inspiration to us all. Bravely, he steps up in front of all his subjects and in sheer defiance dares the white queen: "-you can take me, but spare my men!" Beautiful and profound.

Nov-07-18  Saniyat24: Let's play another round...I was just joking...sorry to say I have not embarrassed myself like this. I hate it when people play Sicilian Bowlder attack against me as White..not a fan of moving the queen in your first or second move, come on people I know how to play chess, you can't mate me with your Queen and Bishop...think that is Scholar's mate. Why am I writing this here? surely I will not turn into another Chris Owen...ah well...Aristotle said, There is no genius without a mixture of madness...<Richard Taylor> is to blame for my post...his comment is a <Phony Benoni>
Sep-03-19
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  Korora: Howery Pack or Norman Nathaniel Pack?
Jul-18-20  Tonymec: <Abdel Irada> <Also, I believe that touching rook before king in castling is permitted.>

According to the curent FIDE rules (which I read yesterday) castling consists of: 1) moving the king two spaces towards the rook; 2) with the same hand, moving the rook to the square just crossed by the king. Rules used to be more lax: once upon a time, you could take the king in one hand and the rook in the other and put them on their new squares. Now (at least in FIDE competitions) you have to make your move and start your opponent's clock all with a single hand.

Moving the rook next to the king is a valid _rook_ move, and at that point it is too late to castle, which has always been a _king_ move. (Ke1-g1, OTOH, is not yet a valid move of any kind, you have to move the rook from h1 to f1 to complete it.)

Exception: in a game with a rook advantage, it is allowed to castle on the side of the absent rook by moving the king two squares in that direction, provided that the other conditions for castling are fulfilled.

Jul-18-20
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  OhioChessFan: I like that someone ran this through Stockfish.
Jul-19-20  Granny O Doul: If I sensed my opponent had played 2. Qh5 from a genuine hope of landing Scholar's mate, I'd probably play 2...Nc6, but otherwise I'd go with 2 ...Nf6, because it is psychologically important to meet contempt with contempt.
Nov-08-21
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  FSR: I once was Black in an online blitz game that began 1.g4 e5 2.f4. I almost played 2...exf4, but thought better of it. A true King's Gambit.
Feb-06-22
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  FSR: This was not the first recorded instance of this bizarre gamelet, which occurred under unique circumstances. According to page 548 of the Anglo-American Magazine, November 1853, the predecessor game was played between "X" and "Y" at the Café de la Régence in Paris. After 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Black (perhaps an aficionado of Damiano's Defense) played 2...f6. That move being illegal, the rules of the day compelled him to play 2...Ke7?? instead. (Shades of Lindemann vs Echtermeyer, 1893, where White was forced to play a similar howler on his third move.) You know the rest. https://www.chesshistory.com/winter... (Edward Winter, Chess Note 5381).
Nov-08-22
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  Korora: Forgot to say «J'adoube»?
Mar-24-23
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  Black Vampire: <rogl: I have actually played this game: 1.g4 e5 2.f3 h4#. To make things clear: I was black.> Some years ago I played a casual game which went: 1.h3?!, e5 2.f3??, Dh4+ and I mated on the following move 😛
Mar-24-23
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  Black Vampire: <Abdel Irada: Black's idea was logical, if a tempo too slow. The king *almost* defends the e-pawn. ;-)> 🤣
Mar-24-23
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  Black Vampire: <GumboGambit: According to Rybka, things started going downhill for Black with Ke7.> 😂🤣
Mar-24-23
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  Black Vampire: <FSR: I once was Black in an online blitz game that began 1.g4 e5 2.f4. I almost played 2...exf4, but thought better of it. A true King's Gambit.> Very sharp your remark 👍🏼💡🔝
Mar-25-23
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  Black Vampire: I feel it is a �manual� mistake: Black wanted to play Qe7 (an inaccurate yet decent defense of the e-pawn) but accidentally he touched the King and, thus, he had to move him; since the only available square was e7, there you have.
Jan-28-25  Petrosianic: <I feel it is a �manual� mistake: Black wanted to play Qe7 (an inaccurate yet decent defense of the e-pawn) but accidentally he touched the King and, thus, he had to move him;>

They usually aren't that fussy about touch move in skittles games.;

Jan-28-25
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  Sally Simpson: Eric explains what happened. Black was a total novice and had been walloped a few times after playing 2...g6 and losing the h8 Rook. (as I was when first starting and I suspect most of you lost the h8 Rook as well.)

So working on the trial by error method Black tried 2...Ke7.

Eric's side of the game; Howery Pack (kibitz #2)

Jan-28-25  Petrosianic: Well, he didn't lose the Rook, so I guess the experiment was a success.;
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