< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 3 OF 5 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Mar-29-15 | | dunamisvpm: Insane??? By just into move 8th??? This must be great!!! |
|
Mar-29-15 | | agb2002: The Tarrasch trap. No fun today. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | lost in space: <<diagonalley>: no chance> lost in space: no chance.
I am sure I have forgotten this trap. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | SimonWebbsTiger: a few choice quotes:
<This game has been known for decades as "the Dresden Trap".> <Curiously enough, Tarrasch had published the whole variation in analysis about a year and a half earlier in the <Deutsche Schachzeitung>. Since that time , Black's inability to avoid giving up the centre* has been one of the fundamental motifs of the play against this defence.> from Tarrasch's Best Games of Chess by Fred Reinfeld, Dover ed., 1960. * By which he means Black has to play ...e5xd4 at some point. |
|
Mar-29-15
 | | perfidious: Another Sunday puzzle which I would hardly have had a snowball's chance of solving without being previously familiar, from the book quoted by <Simon>. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | poslednieje: Edition: Dreihundert Schachpartien
Dritte verbesserte Auflage 1925
Gouda G.B.van Goor Zonen
Page 358/359
Tarrach himself pointed out he had published the analysis in february 1891.
Marco resigned after 17 Le7 according to the edition |
|
Mar-29-15 | | morfishine: Very instructive. The only thing missing is the insanity |
|
Mar-29-15 | | wooden nickel: Nice trap, now I get it... after
8.Bxc6 Bxc6 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Qxd8 Raxd8 11.Nxe5 Bxe4
although material is still equal, White to play and win!
 click for larger view
leading to the insanity of (White to play)
 click for larger view |
|
Mar-29-15
 | | scormus: First time in ages I got a Sunday puzzle, and its this.
Right puzzle, wrong page :( |
|
Mar-29-15 | | 7he5haman: Probably me just being dim, but I can't see an obvious win for White if Black captures the Queen with the <<other>> Rook i.e. <<10...Rfxd8>> Then <<11. Nxe5 Bxe4 12.Nxe4 Nxe4 13. Nd3 f5 14. f3 Bc5 15. Nxc5 Nxc5 16. Bg5 Rd5 17. Be7>> doesn't work as the bishop doesn't land on e7 with tempo (no rook on f8!) What am I missing?
Thanks :) |
|
Mar-29-15 | | 7he5haman: EDIT: Just seen invincible's post - 15.Kf1! :) |
|
Mar-29-15 | | A.T PhoneHome: "If you need a doctor, here I am Mr. Marco!"
- Siegbert Tarrasch after winning his 1892 game against Georg Marco And... Didn't solve this one, just checked the solution. Reminded me of a snowball effect! Beauty of a trap I must say. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | patzer2: My six-year-old Grandson and I have been playing quite a few games in which he plays his favorite Ruy Lopez as White. We've also been studying Rook and Pawn endings which might occur out of this opening. So today's 8. Bxc6!! Sunday solution is a good reminder of an excellent game we can study together. After all, it has a game important to the historical opening theory of the Ruy Lopez (i.e. 3...d6 lines), an opening trap (i.e. 7...O-O? instead of 7...exd4 =), possibilities with a pawn advantage and a superior endgame for White (e.g. 8...bxd6 9. dxe5 ) and a deep tactical threat (i.e. the game continuation all the way to 18. c4 ). P.S.: My Grandson's well rounded and not just into Chess. He's a year ahead in his school work, orange belt in Taekwandoe, studies gymnastics and plays goal keeper and forward on his soccer team. However, the lessons he learns in chess help him with his school work and also with the mental aspects of his sports activities. |
|
Mar-29-15
 | | Penguincw: Doesn't look like the hardest Sunday ever, even though I didn't get anything other than 8.Bxc6 Bxc6. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | A.T PhoneHome: <patzer2> All that sounds really brilliant! I am happy for your grandson; it's good to have diversity in things you do, it's great for shaping one as a whole. And he must be grateful for having such a brilliant chess teacher! :P sports and chess go hand-in-hand. From sports you get stamina, fresh air etc. to focus and chess is a good tool for honing one's logical sense and memory. They make a brilliant cocktail! |
|
Mar-29-15
 | | perfidious: <Penguin> Agreed; though the process is long, it is all 'only' moves. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | cunctatorg: Wow!! Arrrgghhhh.... |
|
Mar-29-15 | | Nichth: The basic idea for the trap is featured in my first chess tuition book, by Leonard Barden. He called it the "master standby" as it was often used by masters during simuls, to pick up a free pawn and an early advantage. In Barden's version, white prepares to win the free pawn by pushing 6.Qd3 instead of castling, in order to protect white's e pawn from recapture by the knight, as in the above game. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | mruknowwho: I found the move but not the continuation. I was thinking a crazy sacrifice with Nxe5 after Bxc6. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | 5hrsolver: Great game. Didn't get the solution. |
|
Mar-29-15 | | jientho2: <aw> Unfortunately, as in the game, White interposes 17 Be7 before c4 and the idea still doesn't go through -- Black will lose a whole knight for the pawn (or a full exchange without any pawn compensation). |
|
Mar-29-15 | | morfishine: <perfidious> I like this comment: <Penguin Agreed; though the process is long, it is all 'only' moves>. It was easy enough to see
<8.Bxc6> as a 'guard removal' theme after 8...Bxc6 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Qxd8 Raxd8 11.Nxe5 But what was deeper and more sinister and harder to visualize is the forced loss of the exchange or a piece after 11...Be4 12.Ne4 Ne4 13.Nd3 f5 14.f3 Bc5 15.Nxc5 Nxc5 16.Bg5 That I didn't see
***** |
|
Mar-29-15 | | crazyim5: What a Markov chain! #HorizonEffect |
|
Mar-29-15 | | bobthebob: <chrisowen: c5 looks good but jam sponge have at d3 interpret sand> Exactly! I remember Fischer made a very similar comment about this game. The interpret sand does create a harsh texture on the jam sponge. |
|
Mar-29-15
 | | chrisowen: <bobthebob> An fates till ave splice the, main brace c6 ave nest booby d8 gone backs c6
crikey us right c6 rascals aka it in feet, c5 hood arrive inter mind jangles soon a slick c6 rope c5 wins palms up ply i catch instigate,
auld gate a lovely win by, saint c6 bobbles,
oh baba c5 ji believe spur d5 on key c4. |
|
 |
 |
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 3 OF 5 ·
Later Kibitzing> |