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Isidor Gunsberg vs Harry Pillsbury
Vienna (1903), Vienna AUH, rd 2, May-04
King's Gambit: Accepted. Modern Defense (C36)  ·  0-1

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Mar-18-06  bbbkuna: this is a great game
Mar-18-06
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  offramp: How demoralizing it is to give up a pawn in the King's Gambit and then come under a massive attack.
May-30-06  ArturoRivera: truly demoralizing!
May-02-14  Christoforus Polacco: I found beginning of this game in a great russian book ''King's gambit'' of Glazkov & Estrin (with Tal's preface). Really I don't understand Gunsberg's move 5.''h3''?
In such gambit this is the lost of time. This is not idea of king's gambit. Before analyze of that, I played improvised game with my comp :) I had't known in this moment that Gunsberg's version of ''modern gambit'' (1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3. Nf3 d5 4.e5? ...) is big error :) So , I played white : 4.e5 ? ...(comp rating in this game about 1600 p. - not so much... I had long pause with chess :)

4... g5 5.d4 g4 6.B:f4 gf 7.Q:f3 Bh6 8.B:h6 N:h6 9.Qf4 Nf5 10.Bd3 Qh4+ 11.Q:h4 N:h4 12.O-O O-O 13.Rf6 Nd7 ? 14.Rh6 Ng6 15.Nc3 c6 16.Rf1 Rd8 17.h4 c5 18.N:d5 cd 19.Nf6+ N:f6 20.ef Bg4 21.h5 Nf8 22.Rf4 Be6 23.Rf3 B:h2 24.Rg3+ Kh8 25.Rg7 Re8 26.B:h7 Re1+ 27.Kf2 Rd1 28.Bg8+ Nh7 29. Rh:h7+ end :)

I will try it in the strongest level if any occasion appear - I am wonder how it will be ? :)

Feb-10-15  Christoforus Polacco: I played it at the same level of programm.
1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d5 4.e5 g5 5.d4 g4 6.B:f4 gf 7.Q:f3 Ne7 8.Bg5 Nbc6 9.c3 h6 10.Bf6 Rg8 11.Bd3 Bg4 12.Qf2 Bg7 13.Bh7(0-0) Rh8 14.Bd3 B:f6 15.Q:f6 Ng6 16.Qg7 Nce7 17.O-O Be6 18.Nd2 c6 19.Rf6 Rg8 20.Q:h6 Qa5? 21.Nb3 Qd8? 22.Nc5 Bc8 23.Raf1(Qh7) b6 24.Nb3 Be6 25.a4 Rh8 26.Qg7 ... and in this moment comp lost his cold blood :)... N:e5 ?? -should play for perpetual ... Rg8.
Dec-15-15  PJs Studio: Great comment offramp
Dec-16-15  Granny O Doul: White here looks like someone looking for, say, the London System thematic tourney but who showed up the wrong week.
Jun-09-16  Christoforus Polacco: <1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d5 4.e5 g5 5.d4 g4 6.B:f4 gf 7.Q:f3 Ne7 8.Bg5 Nbc6 9.c3 h6 10.Bf6 Rg8 11.Bd3 Bg4 12.Qf2> 12.Qf2? is a drawish mistake. It should be 12.Qg3! My last game in this gambit (on the higher level of programme). Perhaps it's unsound but it's playable. 1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d5 4.e5 g5 5.d4 Nc6 6.c3 Be6 7.Bd3 g4 8.B:f4 gf 9.Q:f3 Qh4+ 10.Bg3 Qg4 11.Qf2 O-O-O 12.O-O Be7 13.Nd2 a5 14.a3 Re8 15.b4 f6 16.b5 Na7 17.ef N:f6 18.b6 cb 19.Rab1 Ne4 20.N:e4 de 21.Be2 Qg5 22.R:b6 B:a3 23.Ba6 ba 24.Rb8+ Kd7 25.Rb7+ Kc8 26.Rb8+ Kd7 27.Rb7+ Kc6 28.Rc7+ Kb6 29.d5+ e3 30.Qa2 B:e5 31.Q:a3 Bc6 32.Rb1+ Nb5 33.c4 Qf5 34.Qc1 Bb7 35.cb ab 36.R:b7+ K:b7 37.Qc7+ Ka6 38.Qc6+ Ka7 39.R:b5 Q:b5 40.Q:b5 and white wins after long endgame.
Jun-09-16  RookFile: That rook on h2 was pretty miserable in this game.
Jun-09-16  cunctatorg: I keep saying that Harry Nelson Pillsbury belongs to the Pantheon of the Greats of the game of chess.
Jun-09-16  RookFile: If you find a Pillsbury game (win, lose, or draw) that wasn't interesting, let me know. I think by far he played the most interesting chess.
Jun-09-16  Christoforus Polacco: If anybody has good chess programme ''Rybka'' or other, I will be very grateful if somebody verify if it's right idea or not the Gunsberg's move 4.e5 plus idea knight's sacrifice on 'f3'. I try to use it fantastic brainchild of Schlechter from his famous game against Teichmann. Schlechter vs Teichmann, 1903 But it's ''small'' difference between black pawn on 'd5' or 'f5' :)
Jun-13-16  Howard: Regarding Cunctatorg's remark, Andy Soltis once said in Chess Life (probably at least 30 years ago) that he considered Keres and Pillsbury to be the two strongest players never to become world champion...

...though, personally, I disagree with Pillsbury being one of those "two". Except for Hastings 1895, he didn't really distinguish himself that much, in my view.

To be fair, he was only 33 when he died--he might have accomplished a lot more, otherwise.

Jun-13-16  Retireborn: <Howard> Soltis may have meant that they were the strongest not to have played a world championship match. There are other candidates for that, but I suppose it's a moot point now when we have a plethora of 2600+ GMs who can't get near the world title.

I'm currently working through the Pillsbury-Lasker games; it's a great pity that they never played a match.

Aug-07-16  Christoforus Polacco: The best players who never played match for World Champion: Rubinstein, Tartakower, Nimzowitsch, Reti, Keres, Najdorf.
Aug-07-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: You forgot Reshevsky; he's a true great, apparently.
Aug-08-16  Christoforus Polacco: I've forgotten about Samuel Rzeszewski :) It's a lot of very good Polish-Jewish players who should to get a chance for WM tittle... Only Zukertort and Janowski had the chance.
Oct-15-16  Christoforus Polacco: I've played it again - Schlechter's patent from Gianutio Countergambit using in Modern Defense - but black's game on the higher level was paradoxically much worse and much shorter than before : 1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d5 4.e5 g5 5.d4 g4 6.B:f4 gf 7.Q:f3 Nc6 8.c3 Bf5 9.Bd3 B:d3 10.Q:d3 f6 11.ef N:f6 12.O-O Bd6 13.Bg5 B:h2+ 14.Kh1 N:d4??? 15.B:f6 Qd6 16.B:h8 Nc6 and black is out. P.S. After 16.... Qh6 17.Qh3 Q:h3 18.gh Nc2 19.K:h2 N:a1 20.Na3 O-O-O 21.Bd4 and black lost.

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