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| Jul-29-08 | | Whitehat1963: I'm shocked that GJT has played this through move 60. What are the odds he'll go past move 65 or 70? Sounds like a future bet for the Chessbookie. |
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Jul-29-08
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Thanks. Not having tablebases is a real handicap at this point in the game. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | zanshin: <MAJ> (or any other tablebase user) If I go to this link: http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/tab... Which tablebases should I download that will be most relevant to this game? |
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| Jul-29-08 | | srikar10: I cant believe Timmerman hasn't reisgned yet!! |
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| Jul-29-08 | | crazymate: 60. Rb5+ Kd4 61. Rxh5 Ne3 62. Rh8 Nc2 63. h5 c3 64. Rd8+ Kc5 65. h6 Nd4+ 66.Rxd4 Kxd4 67. h7 Kc4 68. h8=Q Kd3 69. Qd8+ Kc4 70. Ke3 Kc5 71. Qxa5+ Kd6 72. Qxc3 Ke6 73. a5 Kd5 74. a6 Kd6 75. a7 Ke6 76. a8=Q Kf5 77. Qe4+ Kg5 78.Qcc6 Kh5 79.Qcg6# 1-0 Mate in 19. there is nothing i can see him doing to change this game's outcome. Rb5+ gets my vote for the list. |
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Jul-29-08
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60.Rb5+
FINAL VOTE RESULTS:
| 60.Rb5+ |
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359 | votes |
(94.5%) |
| 60.0-1 |
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13 | votes |
(3.4%) |
| 60.Ke2 |
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3 | votes |
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| 60.Ke4 |
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2 | votes |
(0.5%) |
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total # of votes: 380
draw requests: 5 (1.3%)
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Jul-29-08
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Temporary Forums:
*** <Analysis of 60…Kd4 61. <Rxa5>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 60…Kd4 61. <Rxh5>> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan |
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| Jul-29-08 | | stukkenjager: Quickest mate or quickest tablebase entry? Reaching a tablebase position, that is a position with 6 pieces or less , is totally irrelevant. Chess is all about finding the shortes way to checkmate. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | kb2ct: Whether or not we play it, last night's Rxa5 analysis was excellent teamwork. :0) |
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| Jul-29-08 | | truefriends: <Jul-29-08 stukkenjager: Quickest mate or quickest tablebase entry? Reaching a tablebase position, that is a position with 6 pieces or less , is totally irrelevant. Chess is all about finding the shortes way to checkmate.> To reach tablebases we need to exchange pieces. And if we exchange pieces we get closer to mate. So the quickest way to mate is to reach a tablebase position :-) |
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| Jul-29-08 | | hms123: <z> certainly the 3/4/5-man TBs. I also have the 6-man without pawns (it doesn't take up much room and downloaded quickly). I believe that the 6-man with pawns is around 1 terabyte by itself. I am sure that others know more about this, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! :-) (For those not in the US, this is a line from a TV commercial that seems to be on all of the time.) |
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| Jul-29-08 | | hms123: <z> Here's another link: http://www.horizonchess.com/FAQ/Win... |
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| Jul-29-08 | | ganstaman: <stukkenjager: Quickest mate or quickest tablebase entry? Reaching a tablebase position, that is a position with 6 pieces or less , is totally irrelevant. Chess is all about finding the shortes way to checkmate.> Actually, I'd want to go for the quickest tablebase entry. At that point, there is no denying the end result, and so I feel it would bring about a quicker resignation. Also, at that point there is a much reduced chance (relative chance, I guess) of us making a mistake. Entering the tablebase is the same thing as ending the game, in my eyes, so that's where I'd aim. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | zanshin: <howard> Thanks. I think I'll try for the 3/4/5 first. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | lonepsycho: <<Jul-29-08 stukkenjager: Quickest mate or quickest tablebase entry? Reaching a tablebase position, that is a position with 6 pieces or less , is totally irrelevant. Chess is all about finding the shortes way to checkmate.> To reach tablebases we need to exchange pieces. And if we exchange pieces we get closer to mate. So the quickest way to mate is to reach a tablebase position :-)> I think he was discussing the difference between mating on the 83rd move with Rxh5 (which delays tablebase entry) or mating on the 86th move with Rxa5 (which enters the tablebase more quickly). I would prefer a quicker mate, and my vote will reflect that. With such strong players on our team, we are not going to blunder because we don't immediately enter a tablebase ending. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | firebrandx: <stukkenjager: Quickest mate or quickest tablebase entry? Reaching a tablebase position, that is a position with 6 pieces or less , is totally irrelevant. Chess is all about finding the shortes way to checkmate.> I believe chess is all about making sure you don't lose ;-) |
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| Jul-29-08 | | kb2ct: <ganstaman: Entering the tablebase is the same thing as ending the game, in my eyes, so that's where I'd aim.> The tablebase wins are diffent number of moves to mate depebding on a number of factors. Sometimes for example a lone rook is faster than queen versus knight. Sometimes delaying tablebase entry speeds up the mate. Tablebases are no reason to stop thinking. :0)
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Jul-29-08
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| Jul-29-08 | | randzo: why is Timberman still playing??? |
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| Jul-29-08 | | amadeus: Chess is all about Qf8+ |
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Jul-29-08
| | Domdaniel: <amadeus> Chess is all about me. That's why this place is such a mess. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | g.mueller: Rybka 3.0 – All you need to know about the new program http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...
total of sixteen Rybka engines
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| Jul-29-08 | | mack: <Chess is all about finding the shortes way to checkmate> Bollocks. |
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| Jul-29-08 | | g.mueller: GJT - World, moves with Shredderbases
click for larger viewAnalysis by Deep Shredder 11 UCI:depth=22
1.  (7.53): 61.Rxh5 c3 62.Ke2 Nf6 63.Rxa5 Ne4 64.Ra8 Ng3+ 65.Kf3 Nf5 66.Rd8+ Ke5 67.Rc8 Nd4+ 68.Kg4 Kd5 69.Rxc3 2. (6.46): 61.Rxa5 c3 62.Ke2 Nf6 63.Rf5 Ne4 64.Kd1 Kd3 65.Rd5+ Kc4 66.Rxh5 Nf2+ 67.Ke2 Nd3 68.Rh8 Nf4+ 69.Kf3 Ng6 70.Rc8+ Kb4 71.h5 |
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| Jul-29-08 | | kb2ct: <g.mueller: GJT - World, moves with Shredderbases Analysis by Deep Shredder 11 UCI:depth=22
2. (6.46): 61.Rxa5 c3 62.Ke2 Nf6 63.Rf5 Ne4> Günter, 63...Ne4 loses to 64. Rf4 and 65. RxN tablebase win. :0)
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