Alexander Alekhine vs Max Euwe (1935)

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Alexander Alekhine vs Max Euwe
Alekhine - Euwe World Championship Match (1935), Amsterdam NED, rd 3, Oct-08
French Defense: Winawer Variation. Winckelmann-Riemer Gambit (C15) · 1-0

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Given 29 times; par: 67 [what's this?]

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Nov-07-13		Conrad93: <I doubt there's much literature on the Winckelmann-Riemer Gambit. Can you show me a single book on it that gives ...Rg6 as a mistake? I've already demonstrated that it's played by nearly all the masters who take up the Black pieces. Yes, Rg6 gains a tempo and may eventually lose a tempo. It happens in chess. White can play Nf5 hitting the rook; then the rook moves and it remains to be seen if White's knight is any good on f5. in the meanwhile Black has enjoyed greater freedom on the kingside by kicking White's queen away. Have you mastered the en passant rule yet? Learning how to learn can be difficult.> If you are after theory on the gambit, try getting old chess magazines. Or better yet, scour online for books on the French. And Ne2-Nf5 is devastating. I haven't been able to find a refutation even with the all-seeing Houdini. Anyways, the Winckelmann-Riemer Gambit is actually 6. f3, not 4. a3.

Nov-07-13		Conrad93: Gennady Kuzmin is supposed to be an expert in this 4. a3 line, but I have only found one game with that specific gambit.

Nov-07-13		Wyatt Gwyon: So Conrad, have you learned the en passant rule yet?

Nov-07-13		Conrad93: I know the en passant rule.

Nov-07-13		Wyatt Gwyon: Congrats. That's a big step for you.

Nov-07-13		Conrad93: How is that a big step for me? I am rated 2200+.

Nov-07-13		Jim Bartle: OK, Conrad93, in Fischer vs Stein, 1967 can white capture with the pawn on e6 on move 29?

Nov-08-13		sneaky pete: <Jim Bartle> An irrelevant question. After 29.exf6+ e.p. Bxf6 white is clearly lost. A 2200+ player would never be so foolish.

Nov-08-13		Wyatt Gwyon: <Conrad> LOL. Right.

Nov-08-13		Jim Bartle: <sneaky pete> It's just a question based on <conrad's> claim on another game page that a pawn on the sixth or third rank can capture en passant.

Nov-08-13		Conrad93: The pawn is on already on the third rank by move 28, so no.

Nov-08-13		Conrad93: I was taught that you can capture a pawn any time it passes another pawn en passant. I don't remember any website mentioning the rule that it has to be on the fifth or fourth rank.

Nov-08-13		Wyatt Gwyon: So how did you make it all the way to 2200 with this misconception? You must've pulled quite a few fast ones on opponents in your extensive tournament career. Or were they all likewise unfamiliar with the rule?

Nov-08-13		Jim Bartle: <conrad> OK, good. So you understand you wre mistaken in your comments about Geller vs Fischer, 1970.

Nov-08-13		perfidious: <Conrad93: I am rated 2200+.> This is sublimely comical. If I had known I could pull a 2200 rating out of my arse as <Conrad> has done, I should never have wasted all those years getting there the hard way.

Nov-09-13		Conrad93: I will never accept that I am wrong. It's not in my nature.

Nov-09-13		Jim Bartle: <Conrad93> "I will never accept that I am wrong. It's not in my nature." You won't get far in life with that attitude.

Nov-09-13		Wyatt Gwyon: <Conrad> That's 'cause you're a tard.

Nov-10-13		Conrad93: No. it's because such admission is bad for the mind.

Nov-10-13		Conrad93: Anyways, you guys are a bunch of weaklings anyway.

Jul-05-15		SpiritedReposte: Actually admitting you are wrong and learning from your mistakes is quite good for your mind...otherwise you're just in denial. Denial is definitely not good.

Jul-05-15		perfidious: The great opponents in this game would never have reached such heights as they did without learning from their own errors. That attribute, combined with hard work, the toughest competition and talent, took both a long way.

Jul-05-15		SpiritedReposte: Or you can think of yourself as infallible, not know the basic rules of chess, and be a 2200 player lol.

Jul-05-15		perfidious: Ah am infallible, don't know nuthin and Ah am still a 2200 playah!

Jul-06-15		JimNorCal: Wasnt there a Soviet GM (multiple?) who didn't know the details of castling? Specifically that a rook can traverse a square covered by an enemy piece?

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