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| Aug-03-07 |
| Ruy Lopez: Alekhine was better than Euwe at this point, but was drunk. He won the rematch sober. |
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Aug-03-07
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| Calli: Yes, I have it on good authority that Alekhine was drunk most of the time:
Game Collection: Alekhine was drunk! |
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| Aug-20-07 |
| sanyas: Is that a mural on the wall in the picture? |
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Aug-20-07
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| Stonehenge: <sanyas> It's probably the game played in the Rijksmuseum (State Museum) Amsterdam. |
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| Aug-20-07 |
| sanyas: Well you never know, chess fans do dress funny sometimes... |
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| Aug-20-07 |
| RookFile: <Alekhine was better than Euwe.> Was he indeed. Euwe wins this match.
That means something.
People remember that Alekhine won the next match. That match was virtually dead even up to the very end: then suddenly Alekhine won 4 games and broke Euwe's spirit. It took Alekhine a long, long time to prove his superiority over Euwe. |
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Aug-20-07
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| plang: <Alekhine was better than Euwe at this point, but was drunk. He won the rematch sober.> What is it about chess that encourages the use of excuses? In other competitions this would be considered rude and show a lack of respect for ones opponent. What is wrong with saying "He outplayed me today" or " he played a better match than I did and deserved to win"? Instead we get "I was sick", "I was drunk", "I should have won but I blundered". |
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Aug-20-07
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| Stonehenge: <sanyas> LOL
<RookFile> and <plang>, good posts. Alekhine was NOT drunk when he played Euwe in '35. I really wish people would stop writing such nonsense. Euwe was better, period. |
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| Aug-20-07 |
| sanyas: The famous quote about never beating a healthy opponent comes to mind. And that Bogoljubov joke. |
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| Aug-20-07 |
| RookFile: Poor old Capablanca had scored a clean match victory over Euwe, and would have only been too happy to have repeated this performance. However, Euwe lost the rematch. |
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| Aug-20-07 |
| Petrosianic: <Alekhine was NOT drunk when he played Euwe in '35. I really wish people would stop writing such nonsense. Euwe was better, period.> Here's what Euwe himself said on the matter:
<Benko: I have heard many rumors that Alekhine was drinking heavily during the match and was behaving strangely sometimes. Can you comment?Euwe: I don't think he was drinking more then than he usually did. Of course he could drink as much as he wanted: at his hotel it was all free. The owner of the Carlton Hotel, where
he stayed, was a member of the Euwe Committee, but it was a natural courtesy to the illustrious guest that he should not be asked to pay for his drinks. I think it helps to drink a little, but not in the long run. I regretted not having drunk at all during the second match with Alekhine. Actually, Alekhine's walk was not steady because he did not see well but did not like to wear glasses. So many people thought he was drunk because of the way he walked.> |
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| Aug-21-07 |
| sanyas: “I had a toothache during the first game. In the second game I had a
headache. In the third game it was an attack of rheumatism. In the
fourth game, I wasn't feeling well. And in the fifth game? Well,
must one have to win every game?”
- attributed to Tarrasch or Bogoljubov |
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Aug-21-07
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| keypusher: <sanyas> Also attributed to Tartakower. Doesn't sound like Bogoljubov to me, but who knows? Well, probably Winter. |
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| Aug-21-07 |
| sanyas: <keypusher> Everything is attributed to Tartakower. And Oscar Wilde. |
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| Oct-22-07 |
| juan kloostra: Alekhine was urinating at one stage during the first match, whilst sitting
on his chair.....he may not have been
drunk, but with the bottle of
WHISKEY next to his chair on the floor
that seems pretty unlikely...... |
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Mar-16-08
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| Knight13: A few games with Alekhine playing completely drunk and lost, one of them being writing down a move and touching the wrong piece on the board. Those cost him 2 points. And some still say Euwe was really stronger than him, that Alekhine's "underestimation" of Euwe is a forget-about-it THING!? Yeah right... If Alekhine wasn't drunk he would've won this. But then, it was his own fault, but drinking alcohol messed up his brain so he coudln't play his full strengh, thus I'm not gonna conclude that Alekhine was weaker than Euwe in 1935. |
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| Mar-16-08 |
| Zonszein: Who are the guys in the picture behind the players?
It reminds me of Sgt Peppers |
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Mar-16-08
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| Calli: The painting is "The Company of Captain Jacob Pietersz Hooghkamer and Lieutenant Pieter Jacobsz van Rijn." The painter is Jacob Lyon in 1620. Painting measures 2.54 m x 4.775 m. Source: "Extreme Chess" by Purdy. |
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| Mar-16-08 |
| sneaky pete: The location is not the Rijksmuseum, but the <Militiezaal>, now part of the University Library. |
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| Apr-08-08 |
| cn1ght: Why Alekhine was drunk...
Oh I feel so hung over, I need to drink some to feel better.
Oh NO! I lost, instead of feeling depressed I'll just get drunk.
Awesome I won, celebrate and get drunk.
I won, I guess it doesn't matter if I'm drunk, might as well feel good today.
I lost, feel better juice time.
etc etc. |
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Apr-08-08
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| chancho: <Alexander Alekhine picked a man who had lost two matches to Bogolubov, Max Euwe of The Netherlands.> Steinitz was the opposite of Alekhine. The old lion would play ALL comers. |
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| Apr-08-08 |
| Petrosianic: According to Euwe, he played these matches because he needed the money. In fact, he'd previously proposed playing a championship match with Euwe on board ship en route to a tournament, but Euwe declined, saying nobody would take it seriously. |
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| Apr-08-08 |
| slomarko: <Actually, Alekhine's walk was not steady because he did not see well but did not like to wear glasses. So many people thought he was drunk because of the way he walked.> what a bizzare explanation by Euwe.. |
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Dec-27-08
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| Karpova: C.N. 5914 with a picture of Euwe and Alekhine at the end of the match: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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| May-07-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: Through game 7 of this match, Alekhine had 4 victories, Euwe 1. Surely this match is one of the greatest come from behind victories in modern chess. |
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Alekhine-Euwe World Championship Match (1935)
