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Feb-10-18 | | beenthere240: I find it interesting how the 958 games move from opening chaos that barely resembles standard chess, but which by the middle game looks more and more familiar. And the endgames are indistinguishable from those in the standard game. Game 4, which Carlsen won, shows the power of the no-increment rule. Halfway through the game, MC began to blitz, presumably to gain a time advantage over HN. He got it. As a result, in a tablebase-drawn endgame, HN was toast. If he didn't play at blitz speed (and eventually blunder) or find a perpetual, he would simply run out of time. As it turned out, he finally blundered. I predict that someone will break down the various 958 non-standard positions into "types" and create an opening theory that will at least be somewhat helpful to players even though developing precise variations will be impractical. Sort of a Fine's "Ideas Behind the Chess Openings." For example, one section could discuss how to treat side by side knights, another talk about Queens in the Corner. And so on. In game 4, Carlsen's 1. f3 opening looked horrible at first, but turned out pretty good even though it created a weak diagonal. |
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Feb-10-18 | | morfishine: Thrilling game today...looks like Naka left a draw out there on the table neglecting to blockade, oh well, thats the way it goes! |
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Feb-10-18 | | john barleycorn: <beenthere240: I find it interesting how the 958 games move from opening chaos that barely resembles standard chess, but which by the middle game looks more and more familiar. And the endgames are indistinguishable from those in the standard game. ...> What else did you expect? I mean there are still 64 squares, the same pieces with the same rules to move. |
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Feb-10-18 | | Marmot PFL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt2... |
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Feb-10-18 | | beenthere240: <John Barleycorn> I was reacting to the fellow who said that 960 wasn't really chess. And it doesn't look like chess at first, but it becomes very "chessy" in a hurry. |
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Feb-10-18 | | Olavi: The Carlsen - Nakamura games are very dull compared to normal chess, but that was to be expected. |
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Feb-10-18 | | morfishine: <Olavi: The Carlsen - Nakamura games are very dull compared to normal chess, but that was to be expected> I wasn't aware of those expectations and you obviously didn't watch game 4 Stay tuned
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Feb-11-18 | | Marmot PFL: The first game today was very tense. Nakamura played to win with black and actually succeeded. |
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Feb-11-18 | | Olavi: <morfishine: <Olavi: The Carlsen - Nakamura games are very dull compared to normal chess, but that was to be expected> I wasn't aware of those expectations and you obviously didn't watch game 4> I posted after checking game four. Games 5 and 6 were livelier at least. |
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Feb-12-18 | | morfishine: <Olavi> I may have confused game 4 as the Nakamura win with Black. The "Live" coverage with Seirawan & Rudolf is decent, but the moves are not shown, so its hard to tell which is which. <CG> is posting the games to the player's game lists, but there's a day or 2 lag. |
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Feb-12-18 | | beenthere240: Game is posted but no kibitzing. I confess it's nice to see comments that don't begin with a disparagement of the opening. "Damn Berlin!" |
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Feb-12-18
 | | Joshka: <beenthere240> yes, that's what should happen. The beauty is is has taken hundreds of years of theory to just finally get a grasp on the ONE opening set up we use. Chess will be alive and fun again once all the prearrangement and memorization is wiped off. With 959 other starting positions, one sure could pick a position say number 49, and write some opening theory ....you have to memorize this, but then again when you sit down to play Fischer random, what would be the chances you'll be allowed to set up on position 49!!...... I say have a tourney or have a set match where only ONE position is played , like say number 88 and let the players dive into that for many games...Good points for sure! |
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Feb-12-18 | | Marmot PFL: The last four games have been decisive, and black won three. In game 7 (new position) white (Nakamura) already lost the advantage after only a few moves and went on to lose the game. |
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Feb-13-18 | | morfishine: Darn, Naka just inexplicably dropped a piece :( |
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Feb-13-18 | | morfishine: Yikes, Naka just resigned after 20 minutes :( |
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Feb-13-18 | | beenthere240: I thought Carlsen's d5 shot was pretty cool. |
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Feb-13-18 | | morfishine: <beenthere240> Yes, but Naka didn't play very accurately, the commentators pointed out simple alternatives to avoid losing the piece |
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Feb-13-18
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Nakamura vs Carlsen, 2018
Nakamura vs Carlsen, 2018 <BLITZ>
Nakamura vs Carlsen, 2018 |
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Feb-13-18 | | zanzibar: <<CG> We can only show the ones that do not contain castling.> Ack! |
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Feb-13-18 | | morfishine: <chessgames.com: We'll post links to Fischer random games as we collect them. We can only show the ones that do not contain castling> Will this be fixed sometime in the future? I know it can be tricky. At Chesscube.com, I play Chess960 exclusively, and believe me, the site went through months of software glitches [ie: after castling, the rook disappears or preventing one from castling at all] that was very frustrating, but seems to be resolved (finally)! :) ***** |
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Feb-13-18 | | zanzibar: <CG> just a recommendation - Published the PGN of all the games, even the ones with castling. Olga, and other viewers, will choke - but people (ok, maybe only premium members) will be able to download the PGN which then becomes the responsibility of the user. |
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Feb-13-18
 | | chessgames.com: There's some discussion on the subject here: https://github.com/jhlywa/chess.js/... |
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Feb-13-18
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Feb-13-18 | | zanzibar: <chessgames> a very simple, and general solution, would be to allow FEN insertions in a PGN. Of course doing the castling proper is best, but one benefit of allowing FEN injection would be the accommodation of Random960 castling, but also the ability to resynch games that have had an illegal move, when the illegal move gets made "officially" (i.e. isn't caught within the 5-move window). |
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Feb-14-18 | | morfishine: What was the scoring format? For 16 games played, there were 24 pts scored, so it seems 8 games were for 1 pt each, while 8 were at 2 pts each, or something like that |
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