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FISCHERANDOM CHESS GENERATOR
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How to Use This Page
  • This page is used for generating a random position to play Fischerandom Chess. Every time you reload this page, or press the new position button, a different position will appear. Just set up a chessboard based on the diagram above, find an opponent, and have fun.

Quick Rules for Fischerandom Chess

  1. Fischerandom Chess is played with a normal chess board and pieces. All rules of Orthodox Chess apply except as otherwise noted.
  2. The initial configuration of the chess pieces is determined randomly for White, and the black pieces are placed equal and opposite the white pieces. The piece placement is subject to the constraints:
    1. the king is placed somewhere between the two rooks, and
    2. the bishops are on opposite colors.
    3. pawns are placed on each player's second rank as in Orthodox Chess.
    There are 960 such configurations.
  3. Castling, as in Orthodox chess, is an exceptional move involving both the King and Rook. Castling is a valid move under these circumstances:
    1. Neither King nor Rook has moved.
    2. The King is not in check before or after castling.
    3. All squares between the castling King's initial and final squares (including the final square), and all of the squares between the castling Rook's initial and final squares (including the final square), must be vacant except for the King and Rook.
    4. No square through which the King moves is under enemy attack.
    The movement of the King and Rook during castling should be easily understood by players of Orthodox Chess:
    1. When castling on the h-side (White's right side), the King ends on g1 (g8), and the rook on f1 (f8), just like the O-O move in Orthodox chess.
    2. When castling on the a-side (White's left side), the King ends on c1 (c8), and the rook on d1 (d8), just like the O-O-O move in Orthodox chess.
    3. Sometimes the King will not need to move; sometimes the Rook will not need to move. That's OK.
  4. The object is to checkmate the opponent's King. Have fun!

Audio file of Bobby Fischer explaining Fischerandom

Kibitzer's Corner
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Aug-03-05  Giancarlo: Does anyone know places where you could play Fischer Random? I know ICC has it.

It would be intresting to see which GM would be the best at Fischer Random. Have they ever had a tounrey of such with GM's?

Aug-03-05  Giancarlo: <The initial configuration of the chess pieces is determined randomly for White, and the black pieces are placed equal and opposite the white pieces.>

ahh, Andras Adjoran would indeed say it the other way around:

Blacks pieces are randomly selected, and whites are placed accordingly!

ahaha. Its intresting how everything in chess is seen from white's perspective...

Aug-03-05  Catfriend: <Giancarlo> Yes, there were chess960 tournaments, Peter Svidler is the current champ.
Aug-04-05  Prisoner of Zelda: chess 960 is an unsightly pimple on the face of chessdom.
Aug-07-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  nasmichael: I am glad the idea of Chess960 (Fischer Random Chess) gets people so impassioned about what they feel. That passion means that the idea of FRC has hit all players of the game and made them question their views of the game as it stands now, and how it may stand in the future. I love the game, as it makes players who may not have played the "standard" game in a while feel more comfortable getting back into the tactics of the game--those players know that because the position is new to both players, the more practiced one may not have such a pattern recognition advantage. I play often (though not an expert in the standard game) and I get many refusals to play from folks who say "I used to play on my high school team", but then get skunked by me, because they feel they have to practice again so as not to lose so badly. But to me, playing is practicing. So I use this innovative variant to put them at ease--they know it is not the opening I am using, not the number of games I have played this week to refresh my "chess eye", not the coaching I may have received from stronger players--they lost because they got outplayed. They have the option of playing a couplet, trying it from both sides, so they know it was their opponent who was making good decisions, and not any trick or secret.

For those who are uplifted by the game, I make a suggestion: that for the games that apply, categorize those wins and losses in terms of the endgames that arise; or, in the absence of that, in terms of spatial imbalances or material imbalances.

Would that be a way to use master games in a productive way? I think so, because for those who coach or have chess students, they can discuss tactical decisions in terms of the conditions that are produced. In this way players see the results of beginning with the end in mind, which is possibly one reason the variant was developed in the first place. The stronger player is making choices that increase her/his playing advantage, and takes advantage of positional considerations to get to the win. Playing is a good tactical exercise--you either take advantage of how you develop, or you don't. You exploit, or better yet create, options for you the player to build on in your games.

Aug-09-05  Giancarlo: <nasmichael>
I love your views on the game! Unfourtunetly, your post is so long that most people won't bother reading it! Pity how some people are, very straight to the point!

Anyways, it wuld be very intresting to see exactly how this game would effect the greatest of master. Things like, "knowing lines" wouldn't make you a great player any more. That's not to say Fischer wasn't great, because I consider him the man with the best knowledge of opening theory ever(!), yet it was him who came up with the idea! (Probably not, he may have stolen it!)

I guess untill we play regular chess perfectly, we'll never play FR chess!

Aug-09-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <Unfourtunetly, your post is so long that most people won't bother reading it!> Well, for whatever it is worth, I read it. (Liked it to.)
Aug-10-05  PSDad: See http://www.chesstigers.de/ then click on the chess960 link, to reach the center of the chess960 universe, where grandmasters play in an annual chess960 tournament. This year's tournament is happening right now (second week August 2005). Can also see http://www.chessbox.de/ chess960 link.

TO NASMICHAEL: I agree with your point that chess960 might bring more adults into formal rated-games chess tournaments, because they would not feel out-of-practice for having forgotten all the openings.

Also, 518 is the setup id number for the orthodox chess setup, in what is currently the most popular id system. But yes there are other systems that assign different numbers to the 960 setups. At least one of these other systems has a major advantage over the 518 system, though I am not yet at liberty to give details.

It would be interesting to see if kibitzers could figure out what the flaw is in the 518 system. Focus on the fact these ids are to help people, not computers (computers already have all they need in RNBQKBNR format). And consider that the 518 system assigns 534 to RNBKQBNR.

Aug-10-05  RookFile: Well, I clicked on the link, to hear Fischer explain Fischerrandom chess, only to find the link doesn't work.
Aug-10-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: One interesting point of psychology: I almost physically dislike the opening stage of the regular chess game, sometimes intensely. Generally, I begin to enjoy a chess game when it reaches a middle game  and I can see the countours of the middle-game or better yet an end-game struggle forming. Yet, I quite enjoy playing 959 (960) chess from the first move. It is the feel of facing home prep from some chess journal that realy realy disagrees with me.

Of course, people are different and some actually enjoy the opening preparation work. There is nothing wrong with it in principle. My chess interests and chess enjoyment just comes from different aspects of the game.

<farrooj: but chess 959 has cooler logo potentiel.> You are right! Cool observation.

<PSDad> I presume you are refering to the difficulty of mapping the 0-959 numbers into starting positions in some human-friendly way.

A lot has been already discussed on these pages, much of it a number of times.

Aug-10-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  tamar: <Gypsy> It strikes me reading your post that a rating system based on FischerRandom would probably produce a different chess hierarchy. (Of course that would require all players to have played the chess variant which is impossible with historical persons.)

Opening preparation has had a great deal to do with who has become World Chess Champion ever since Alekhine and even before.

Would AAA have won if he had to play Capablanca starting from a random position? Odds are no, and he may have been routed.

Botvinnik also may not have attained WC status, since his great edge was looking more deeply into the systems that had lately been invented.

Instead our revered champions might be those gifted with pattern recognition above all else, which might result in also rans becoming our icons.

Aug-10-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <tamar> I could not agree more!

While Pillsbury and Rubinstein got more mileage of the opening research than their contemporaries, it realy was Alekhine, during his drive towards the world championship, who opened the flodgates. And then came Botvinnik, with his system of total prep in all possible aspects of play, and the WC-level chess was never again the same.

But here is something amusing: On my last trip, I finally got my own copy of Vol.1 of Kotov's book on Alekhine. (As a kid, I found Vol.2 in my father's library; but Vol.1 was not to be found anywhere in the country.) Browsing now through the section on AAA's contributions to the opening theory, it struck me how relatively innocent was that era when compared to the opening research of today, say of Kasparov or Kramnik. ... I never thought that I would ever view Alekhine's opening research as the era of innocence, but here it is...

Aug-11-05  azaris: Openings have never decided the WC, even Kasparov lost his title due to mistakes in the middlegame in two games, not due to Kramnik's Berlin.

The complaints about opening theory to me are just excuses. If you don't want to run into deep theory, why play for example mainline Ruy Lopez?

Aug-11-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <The complaints about opening theory to me are just excuses.> Excuses about what?

<Openings have never decided the WC,> Last WC with little opening prep was Capablanca.

<If you don't want to run into deep theory, why play for example mainline Ruy Lopez?> People play the Mainline(s), because one gets the Mainline(s) when both sides are playing reasonably sound moves. In order to get out of theory, at least one player has to play something fairly weird, say 1...Nc6?! (and hope that it is not too weird). Using myself as an example: 1...Nc6 used to be my frequent defense for a couple of years. Yet it certainly was not so because I thought so highly of its merits, but because difficult defense was preferable to me to a theoretical duel. It is highly unlikely, however, that I would often play an equivalent of 1...Nc6?! in 959-chess; I do prefer to stand better in a position.

<...even Kasparov lost his title due to mistakes in the middlegame in two games, not due to Kramnik's Berlin.> The way I see it, Kramnik's Berlin was ~50% of his victory. The rest was his prep with White, tremendous skil, and a bit of luck that Kasparov was going through a rough patch of his life.

This reminds me a couple of quotes by Bareev (from Dvoretsky's "Positional Play"): <<>"...Incidentally, in cases where where Kasparov has not devoted enough time to special preparation for a tournament, it is possible to fight with him on equal terms, ..."> And when analysing Bareev vs Kasparov, 1992 Bareev writes after his 7th move: <<>"This is a novelty? No, as it says in the tournament bulletin, it had already been played in Budnikov-Krrupa, USSR Ch 1991. .... Here the world champion fell into deep thought. In principle he knows everything, and usually plays the opening quickly. But if he is faced with some sort of problem, he becomes like other players and begins to think -- sometimes for a long time.">

Aug-11-05  azaris: <Excuses about what?> Excuses about playing poorly in the opening.
Aug-11-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <Excuses about playing poorly in the opening.> Oh, I can not help there. I did not say that I play opening poorly, but that, in standard chess, I do not quite enjoy playing it. In contrast, I do enjoy playing openings in 959.

(I shall elaborate furthrer about the reasons, I have not enough time now.)

Aug-12-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: I promissed to post some things I dislike, or like, about playing theory openings of the standard chess. These are not value judgements of general applicability, just my taste for things. Others may like exactly what I dislike.

(1) I like playing position -- thus I dislike the fact that to get people out of book, one has to use moves/plans that are suspect from the positional view.

(2) I do not enjoy walkig a theoretical minefield -- thus I dislike the fact that to play a sharp opening, with or without theoretical knowledge, one walks a minefield of prepared suprises. OTB suprises, or player's own home prep suprises, do not bug me; but journal-based booby traps do. I find a very little fun in falling into one of those.

(3) I get bored seeing the same openings over and over -- but players stick to their narow opening repertoar, as there it is where the reservoar of their knowledge is.

(4) I like playing on even terms -- thus I do not enjoy it when I get my oponent in a standard opening trap; one gets a point, but it feels a cheap victory. And it feels like a waste of a potentially good game.

(5) I dislike the sudden switch of quality of play by an oponenent -- first 16 moves by Polugaevsky and the rest of the game by Joe Doe. This has lots to be desired. Often, it is soo hard to hang on for dear life against Polugaevsky, and then Joe just flounders-and-blunders it all away. That does not make for a fun game.

(6) I do not like being dictated the pace of the game -- at times, even I am in a mood for a good old blitzkrieg attack right from the opening. But I do not dare to do that as blitztrieg attacks are bound to have been studied to death.

What I do like is the high quality opening play we get to see from the best games:

(1') Strategically subtle and positionally highly refined structural and tempo work.

(2') Razor-sharp variations where one side threds through the oponents designs seemingly against all reason and rhyme.

Aug-12-05  martis27: Does anyone know any fischerandom games viewer?
Aug-12-05  mack: Q. How long does it take for a Fischerandom player to change a lightbulb?

A. Ages, he's too busy trying to revolutionise the way the lightbulb works even though it's completely fine as it is.

Aug-12-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <mack> First you say that the lightbulb needs changing, then that it is completely fine.... Which is it?

Aug-12-05  mack: That's a very good point. I didn't really think that one through.
Aug-13-05  PSDad: TO: Martis27, http://www.PlayWithArena.com/ is free. The Betsy chess960 engine it also comes with is free, but I think it is at times slightly buggy. Arena comes with other free engines, though Betsy is the default.

Wow, Levon Aronian this week won the Mainz Germany(http://www.ChessTigers.de/) chess960 tournament for his second time in two tries! Unfortunately young L.A. says he does not like playing chess960. His stated reason is he does not like to have to think during the opening phase - I presume it gets tiring.

Aug-13-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: A question: what, if anything, is the difference between Fischerandom Chess and Chess960?
Aug-13-05  ughaibu: Isn't it the point that only a Fischerandom player would be trying to change a working light bulb? (Mack didn't say it needed changing)
Aug-13-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Gypsy: <only a Fischerandom player would be trying to change a working light bulb?> If the lightbulb works, then it hardly matters if it takes ages to change it.
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