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Jun-23-03 | | actual: 6 Bc4 doesn't fare as well statistically for white as 6 Be2, 6 Be3, or 6 g4 but it is very tricky and combinational sacrifices are possible at e6. |
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Jun-23-03 | | Shadout Mapes: I play Bc4 against the classical Sicilian (Velimorovic Attack), but not the Najdorf. It's funny, I'm reading The Ideas Behind Chess Openings by Ruben Fine (a very old book), and he basically dissmisses every variation of the Sicilian except the Paulsen because of the Sozin move. |
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Jun-23-03 | | drunknight II: Yeah. Fine can get very dogmatic. I dont want to criticize him too much because his ending book is great and the book you are reading is pretty good albeit dogmatic. I wonder if that maeks him a spanish player? |
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Jul-24-03 | | Benjamin Lau: <I wonder if that maeks him a spanish player? >
You mean the Ruy Lopez? He's played it a little, but he plays d4 more so it doesn't come up very often. |
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Oct-19-03 | | Marnoff Mirlony: The Fischer-Sozin is one of the most aggressive lines in the Sicilian for White to go into. |
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Oct-19-03
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Oct-19-03 | | Benjamin Lau: Bc4 doesn't seem to work very well in closed games apparently. |
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Oct-19-03 | | drukenknight: Oftentimes, putting B on the e file like Be3/Be2 seems to work better vs the Dragon. I think they call it Velimirovic's system, but.... Eggman: "Being certain of a judgment" IS being dogmatic, regardless of how much thought was put into it. Besides, the very nature of chess is dynamic, chess is the very antithesis of dogmatism. That is why his entire approach is wrong and also very misleading for the beginner who thinks he needs to know the first 5 moves of the Ruy Lopez. He will probably never see that position that he is trying to achieve while his opponents continue to play tricks on him. HOw many old openings were refuted and then rehabilitated? How many old brilliancies turned out not to be so great? They are still finding new moves in the Kings gambit. Then there is Fischer Random chess. Mixup the pieces and there is still no forced win. That ought to tell you something. |
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Jan-01-05 | | F47: What is the purpose of Bb3 in the Fischer-Sozin Attack? |
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Jan-01-05 | | actual: because black is going to play a6 and b5 so the bishop on c4 is going to have to move anyway so it might as well go to b3 and stay on the 'italian' diagonal |
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Jan-30-05 | | Backward Development: Ah, the Sozin. I just ordered "The Sicilian Sozin" to digest a fair amount of theory, so i can play this move a little more confidantly. This has always been my favorite weapon against the open sicilian, not least because it clamps down on d5, as well as reduces the amount of theory, relatively speaking, because i don't have to worry about ...e5. |
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Jul-22-05 | | Knight13: Opening of the Day
I've played this opening as White few times and I usually play Bb3 after Black plays a6. It's a good opening, which, I think favors White a little. |
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Aug-16-05 | | chess man: I play 6.Bc4 against just about any variation in the Sicilian and I score very well with it. You have to know what you are doing of course as with any opening and since there is just as much chance to win with Black as there is with White, it's not the kind of opening where you get away sitting around doing nothing because if you play too passively the initiative will pass to Black. |
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Aug-17-05 | | KKW: What does white play after 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Bb3 b5 8. 0-0 b4 ? |
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Aug-17-05 | | Stevens: <KKW> after ...b4 just play Na4 or retreat to Nb1. You could always try playing a3 at some point to prevent ...b4 if you don't like that move. You may come up with a position that's very playable. |
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Sep-07-05 | | FearsomePawn: <after ...b4 just play Na4 or retreat to Nb1> I think he--and I as well--want to know what to do after the risky-looking pawn grab Nxe4. I am currently rehabilitating my Open Sicilian Repetoire (I tired the Morra Gambit, but I disliked that Black can force White into the Alapin), and I am thinking of playing the Sozin against the Najdorf, so this would, of course, be a key concept to know. |
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Sep-09-05 | | FearsomePawn: I found the answer here in this game:
Fischer vs O Gadia, 1960 and under ECO code B87:
Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5 (B87) |
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Sep-09-05 | | RookFile: Think I looked this up on chessbase once and saw games going 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Bb3 b5 8. 0-0 b4 9. Na4 Nxe4 10. Re1 with white coming out on top. I don't think it's a forced win, though. |
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Sep-09-05 | | CGreene: <FearesomePawn> I was thinking of rehabilitating my own Open Sicilian repertoire and last weekend bought the two current books out on the English Attack (white plays f3, Be3, Qd2/g4). However, I remembered Schiller had recommended the Halasz Gambit in his book "A Gambit Opening Repertoire for White". At the time, I ignored it because I was playing the Smith-Morra but, like you, I've become disenchanted with so many Alapin declinations. The Halasz Gambit goes 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cd 3. f4 (with the idea of playing Nf3, Bd3, O-O, a3, b4, Nbd2/Bb2/Qe1). Schiller's lines were generally helpful, but it wasn't until I went on Chessbase.com and looked at the games. Very impressive results and original play. A fringe benefit is that it also be played against the French, making it very economical indeed (1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e4 c5 4. f4 cd 5. Nf3) |
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Jan-22-07 | | who: I assume you mean 3.e5 in your line in the French. |
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Apr-16-07 | | Bob726: This line is terrible. Black wins slightly more than white actully. 36.3% compared to 37.0% for blkack. |
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Apr-16-07 | | Bob726: Sicilian, Najdorf (B90) white wins almost 10 % more in that line. so bc4 is clearly bad-even if fischer liked it! |
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Apr-16-07 | | Bob726: 10% more compared than black, i meant. |
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Jun-05-07
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Aug-26-08 | | refutor: is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 a good way to force a Najdorf or Dragon-player to play the Scheveningen? assuming the likely 3. ...e6 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 and what does Black have besides 5. ...Nc6 or 5. ...Nf6? after 5. ...Nf6 6.Nc3 i guess the najdorf guys can go back in with 6. ...a6 but in any case i think it's worth a try if 3. ...Nf6 4.Nc3 followed by 5.d4 transposes back in. i guess the only thing it avoids is the Dragon? a little evening food for thought (at least for me anyways) |
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