Hans Niemann vs Abhimanyu Mishra (2024)

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Hans Niemann vs Abhimanyu Mishra
United States Championship (2024), Saint Louis, MO USA, rd 8, Oct-19
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50) · 1-0

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Oct-20-24		goodevans: When you're short on time you have to play on instinct as much as calculation. What instinct would tell you to play 68...Kf5 here? click for larger view That's a genuine question. The instincts of this bang average club player would have had me play 68...Kf6 in an instant and that would have drawn. Mishra is a super strong GM so I'm genuinely intrigued to have some inkling what in this position would have tempted him into the losing 68...Kf5. Thoughts, anyone?

Oct-20-24		qkxwsm: Kf5 does bring the king closer to the c4 pawn, which conceivably might be useful somehow? Its issue is that it loses by force as in the game, while Kf6 doesn't since f6 guards e7 meaning that checks along the a file pick up the e pawn if white tries e7. I could see this being not immediately obvious without calculating.

Oct-20-24		perfidious: <goodevans....What instinct would tell you to play 68...Kf5 here?> In such conditions, I would plump for 68....Kf6 here with very little thought. Even with more time, hard to see how 68....Kf5 can be right. Perhaps it was a fingerfehler. That said, I would trade this lad's career for mine. He is going places.

Oct-20-24		John Abraham: Mishra is having a very poor tournament thus far. Maybe he needs to work on his confidence

Oct-20-24		MissScarlett: Or his left hook.

Oct-23-24		SkySports: <John Abraham: Mishra is having a very poor tournament thus far. Maybe he needs to work on his confidence> Or maybe this is just his current level and he can't compete with 2700 players yet. I might be wrong, but my feeling is that if you overtrain to clinch the effemeral record of being the youngest GM ever, then you pay some consequences the following years. In physical sports that's a fact, not sure about chess though...

Oct-23-24		perfidious: I am reminded of a sentence from <Bobby Fischer's Chess Games>, which I will paraphrase: <Even for a genius, the road that began with that shared half-point at Portoroz (Fischer vs O Neikirch, 1958) has been long and arduous> This is tough company for even a grizzled veteran; no mugs in this field, and Mishra will come round in time.

Oct-23-24		Sally Simpson: Hi Perfidious, Could be he just off form which is a spell all players go through from time to time. The trouble is when it happens to a young one they might not yet have the experience to realise it and deal with it. He will want this tournament behind him. He did OK in the USA Ch. last year United States Championship (2023) Hi Good Evans. I've no idea of the clock times but it is possible Mishra played 68...Kf5 because two moves later, here; click for larger view He either figured on 70.Kd7 when 70...Ra7+ and 71...Rxe7 and 72...Ke4 draws. The Black King is close enough and the White King is far away enough to force White to give up the Rook for the c-pawn. Or maybe he saw Hans could play 70.Kd5 and here; click for larger view Mishra had White playing 71. Kxc4 instead of 71...Kd4. 71.Kxc4 Re5 is a clear draw.

Nov-04-24		cehertan: Young players need to work on their endings at the highest level. On the way up they can get by without it.

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