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| Mar-13-23 | | Brenin: 15 Bxg5 wins a free P, since Black couldn't possibly allow 15 ... fxg5 16 Ne5+ and 17 Nxd7, could she? Oh, she did. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I guess... 5. Bxg5 fxg5 16. Ne5+ and the King conquered the enemy's ♕.. I love it! Good week starts like this! |
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| Mar-13-23 | | jrredfield: I don't get this one. There is no move I can find that gives White a clear advantage. I considered 15 Bxg5 but after more analysis, it appears to just lead to a draw. Is this urgent to keep White even in the game? 15 O-O seems harmless enough. No move stands out to me as best. The only thing I can think of is a bit of weakening of Black's K pawn defense, but for a Monday I would expect a clear win or significant material gain in just a few moves and I can't find such a gain here. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | get Reti: Mondays are usually a piece sac that forces checkmate, not winning a pawn but still having a drawish position if they decline a further sac. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | FM David H. Levin: On 15. Bxg5, a much stiffer defense is 15...Qc7! (possibly what <jrredfield> was alluding to), evading the potential knight fork while threatening 16...Qxc3. Although I prefer White after, say, 16. Be3 Qxc3 17. O-O, it's still a game. Seems kind of a bogus puzzle. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | jrredfield: <David H. Levin: On 15. Bxg5, a much stiffer defense is 15...Qc7! (possibly what <jrredfield> was alluding to)> Exactly. 15 ... Qc7 16 Be3 Nf5 17 O-O Qxc3 18 Rc1 Nxe3 ... just a draw at this point. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | Dohboy: Brenin said it first. And best. |
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Mar-13-23
 | | perfidious: After spotting the obvious 15.Bxg5, my first thought was that Black could sidestep, as others have noted, with 15....Qc7, when I felt White might have an advantage, but hardly a win. Strange POTD for any day, particularly a Monday. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | EasilyConfused: Does Nxg5+ lead to a winning attack? |
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Mar-13-23
 | | lil dw: A good example of not reacting automatically to a capture. Black should stop, think, and hopefully see Ne5+ coming. Loss of a pawn is better than losing the game. And after Bxg5 the engine scores the position as equal 0.0. |
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Mar-13-23
 | | takebackok: After 15...fxg5?? its good grief over & out. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | Honey Blend: Indeed 15. ♗xg5 ♕c7 is the best response. This stops ♗f4 and after 16. ♗e3 ♘f5 White has no time to defend c3, e.g. 17. ♖c1 ♘xe3 18. fxe3 ♕g3+ 19. ♔f1 ♗a3:
click for larger viewWhite has to give up the exchange after something like 20. ♖a1 ♗b2. Best that White has is 17. 0-0 ♕xc3 18. ♖c1 ♘xe3 where after a series of exchanges, Black still has the bishop pair e.g. 19. ♖xc3 ♘xd1 20. ♖xd1 etc. |
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Mar-13-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Weird but true--until 13...Kf7, the CG computer rates Black's position as slightly superior, and recommends 13...Nf5 as a better move. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | agb2002: The pawn on f6 is overburdened with the defense of e5 and g5. Therefore, 15.Bxg5 wins a pawn (15... fxg5 16.Ne5+ and 17.Nxd7). |
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| Mar-13-23 | | agb2002: Bad start of the week. I should have seen immediately 15... Qc7. |
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Mar-13-23
 | | Check It Out: I kept looking at a king side step, also should have seen Qc7. Blacks rating is 1500-1600, so a little understandable not seeing the fork, but... |
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| Mar-13-23 | | saturn2: I like spoiled mondays |
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| Mar-13-23 | | mel gibson: That's too easy - LOL |
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| Mar-13-23 | | cocker: Black may be in the Higher League, but at 1594 she is/was even weaker than me. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | Jegar Sahadutha: Loquacious sea robin flails ungraciously - to no avail. When will the unscrupulous ones ever learn? Hast thou not read the Book of Declamations? Learn the way of the sailor; live it well. Then may the blind begin see. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | TheaN: White's best attempt is <15.Bxg5!? => grabbing a pawn and unbalancing the position. Black erred with 15....fxg5? 16.Ne5+ +-, could have leveled with 15....Qc7! removing the fork and hitting c3. Whilst 0, the position's unbalanced and I give White the practical edge, but that's all there is to it. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | Brenin: That's interesting. OTB I would have seen 15 Bxg5, but realising that Black can (indeed must) decline the sacrifice, I would then have looked carefully for good Black responses, finding 15 ... Qc7 (it's not hard, once you think to look). I would have gone ahead with Bxg5 anyway since this line converts what had been a slight Black advantage (as <An Englishman> has noted) into a slight White advantage after Black regains the lost P. However, as it was a Monday POTD I simply took the "free" P and retired to bed. I should not underestimate Monday POTDs. |
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| Mar-13-23 | | Damenlaeuferbauer: Of course Anna Afonasieva played 15.Bxg5!, intending 15.-,fxg5? 16.Ne5+, which won black's queen and the game, but Lana Dryaeva could have played 15.-,Qc7!, as <David H. Levin>, <jrredfield>, <perfidious> and others pointed out. Up to 13.b4, Lana Dryaeva played the opening very well; after 13.-,Nf5!? or 13-,Rc8!?, black would have had an obvious advantage. After 15.-,Qc7!, all three results are still possible: I am sure, every human player under 2600 Elo would lose this position against Stockfish 14/15. A strange Monday puzzle! |
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| Mar-13-23 | | FM David H. Levin: <EasilyConfused: Does Nxg5+ lead to a winning attack?> After 15. Nxg5+ fxg5 16. Bxg5, Black's king might be considered "exposed." However, White doesn't have an immediate tactical follow-up, a space advantage on the kingside, or a preponderance of pieces in that sector. So, I don't think White has sufficient compensation. |
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Mar-13-23
 | | benveniste: I spent minutes looking for something better than ♗xg5 before giving up. I'll never have that time back. |
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