| Feb-13-22 | | Brenin: 21 ... Nxe4 22 fxe4 (22 Nxd4 cxd4 23 fxe4 Qxc4 24 Qxd4 Rxc4 looks good for Black) Qe5 (better than 22 ... Rfe8 23 Bd5, and threatening both Bxe4+ and Qxf5) 23 Bd5 Bxd5 24 exd5 Qxd5+ with a strong attack for Black. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | mel gibson: I didn't get the right answer.
Stockfish 14 agrees with the text but
it's only a small advantage of 2 points:
21... Nxe4
(21. .. Nxe4 (♘f6xe4 a3xb4 ♘e4-f2 ♖d1xd4 c5xd4 ♕c2xf2 ♕c7xc4
♘a4-b6 ♕c4-d3 ♘b6xc8 ♖f8xc8 ♘f5xd4 ♘g6-e5 ♖a1-a3 ♕d3-d1 ♗c1-d2 ♖c8-d8
♕f2-e1 ♕d1xe1 ♗d2xe1 ♖d8xd4 ♗e1-c3 ♖d4-d5 b4xa5 ♗b7-a6 ♖a3-b3 ♘e5-d7 h2-h4
♗a6-b5 ♖b3-b4 f7-f6 g3-g4 ♔g8-f7 h4-h5 ♘d7-e5 ♔g2-g3 ♘e5-d3 ♖b4-d4 ♖d5xd4
♗c3xd4 ♔f7-e6 f3-f4 g7-g6 h5xg6 h7xg6 ♗d4-c3 f6-f5 ♔g3-f3 ♗b5-c4 ♔f3-g3
♗c4-a6 ♔g3-f3 ♗a6-b5 b2-b3 ♔e6-d5 g4xf5 g6xf5 b3-b4 ♗b5-c4 ♔f3-e3 ♗c4-a6)
+2.28/42 288)
score for Black +2.28 depth 42. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | raymondhow: Surprised myself choosing the first four moves, then wanted to play 25...b3 to harass the white queen. The engine says that's worth a 2 point advantage, whereas the text 25...Qf3 is worth a 3 point advantage. I'm inclined to give myself half credit. |
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Feb-13-22
 | | OhioChessFan: Wow. Out of my pay grade. |
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Feb-13-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Ahhh, back to the usual nice normal 5/7, flubbed the weekend, week. Saw the sacrifice but rejected it because it looked unsound. |
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Feb-13-22
 | | Breunor: Me too, way too tough. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | nalinw: Yes difficult as always for a Sunday - but the threats after .... Qe5 are fairly obvious in hindsight - I feel bad that I didnt see anything after ... Nxe4 |
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| Feb-13-22 | | AlicesKnight: I saw the idea was to blast open the h1-a8 diagonal but was at a loss how to do it effectively. It looekd as if White could exchange down the threat but Black kept finding new ones. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | saturn2: The first two moves getting two pawns for the knight plus an exposed king under a diagonal attack - thats what came as an idea. But I could not see the win. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | whiteshark: What did you get from the game, <♖a1> and <♘a4>? Worth a piece. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | Nosnibor: I initially toyed with the idea of 21...Ne5 with the threat of 22...Nxf3 but the game line is stronger. |
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Feb-13-22
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| Feb-13-22 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: The first few moves are pretty easy to see, including that White's only hope is 25 Kh3. So I decided to go with that on Spielmannesque faith. Once I got to the Move 25 position, I did not find the game line. Fortunately, my alternative of 25 ... b3, continuing the attack against the f5 knight, seems plenty good enough as an alternative. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | 1stboard: I got the first move 21 Nxe4 but could not find the continuation. Must admit black's move 29 Ng4 ( ! ) was a really nice move. As < OhioChessFan > said - Wow. Out of my pay grade. |
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| Feb-13-22 | | BoardCrawler: Why does white not play 32. Qxf5? |
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| Feb-13-22 | | agb2002: White threatens Nxd4.
The bishop on b7 x-rays the white king and could fork White's royal family from e4. This suggests 21... Nxe4. However, after 22.fxe4 Qe5 23.Bd5 (23.Nxd4 Bxe4+ wins decisive material; 23.Re1 Qxf5 wins an important pawn with the better position) 23... Bxd5 24.exd5 Qxd5+ 25.Kh3 (25.Kf1 Qf3+ 26.Ke1 Rhe8+ wins) the position is unclear (25... b3 26.Qd3 Qe6 -26... Qd7 Nb6- 27.g4). I don't know. I'd probably play 21... Rfe8, preparing Nxe4. |
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Feb-13-22
| | chrisowen: Fed duff favour e4 no? Sunday code no? |
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Feb-13-22
 | | scormus: I think this is payback for last Sunday.
I wondered if it might be 21 .... Nxe4, if only because it's a puzzle, but I had no expectation about fnding a way to win from it. If I had to play the position I'd go with <agb2002> idea |
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| Feb-13-22 | | yrotciv: 21...Nxe4 22. fxe4 Qe5 23. Re1 seems better for white. His rook is not on an open file, but it seems like the defenses are better here |
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| Feb-13-22 | | yrotciv: 21...Nxe4 22. fxe4 Qe5 23. Re1 Ne7 24. Nxe7+ Qxe7 25. Bf4 Kh8 26. Kf1 f5 27. exf5 Qf6 28. Rab1 Qxf5 29. Qxf5 Rxf5 30. Ke2 Re8+ 31. Kd3 g5 32. Bd6 Rd8 33. Bxc5 Bxc5+ 34. Kc2 Rf2+ 35. Re2 Ba7 36. Kb3 bxa3 37. Kxa3 Rxe2 38. Bxe2 Bc6 39. Nc3 Bc5+ 40. Ka2 Bd5+ 41. Ka1 Bb4 42. Nxd5 Rxd5 seems headed for a draw |
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Kibitzing
sac: 21...Nxe4