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 | | tpstar: White to Play and Win after 27 ... Bxc6.
8. Bd2 Bf6 is the most common line, followed by 8 ... f5 = Opening Explorer |
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| Feb-04-17 | | 310metaltrader: actually it is white to play and win after 26 ... c6. the position may have been lost after black moved his king into the corner. |
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| Feb-04-17 | | ChessHigherCat: 28. Qf3 is brilliant. 28. Qxe5 just loses a piece after 28...Bxe4 |
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| Jul-03-18 | | ChessHigherCat: I must be getting prematurely senile. I was looking at Qxe5, moving the knight with a tempo in order to play the fork pawn b5, Bf5 to distract, the queen, and finally I found 18. Qf3 only to discover I'd already admired it over a year ago! |
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Jul-03-18
 | | Penguincw: As for yesterday's puzzle, it seems that more users like Re1+ than Qxd1+ (grr). A couple of ways to count it, but none of them were close (ex. 8-4). Anyway, onto the Tuesday puzzle. I hadn't gotten a Monday puzzle in a while, but just got one yesterday. Can I get the Tuesday one? No, not yet. Maybe next week. Baby steps.
I was trying to get black to play 28...Rxe5 after 28.Qxe5 but it's not forced. 1/2 this week. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | areknames: Stared at the position for several minutes and...just didn't get it. <28. Qxe5 just loses a piece after 28...Bxe4> No, White simply plays 29.Qxe4 and the Queen is untouchable. 28.Qf3 is indeed brilliant in its simplicity. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | ChessHigherCat: <areknames> You're absolutely right, it shows how bad I was a year and half ago before hanging around with you demons! Qxe5 is just a draw according to SF: 1) =0.00 (26 ply) 28...Qd8 29.Qf4 g5 30.Qf6+ Qxf6 31.Rxf6 Bxe4 32.Rxb6 Ra8 33.Nd6 Bd3 34.Rb7 Rf8 35.Nf7+ Kg8 36.Nh6+ Kh8 37.Nf7+ |
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| Jul-03-18 | | Sonia lamba: May be naka the demon is a fianchanto crash course ..Be it he's betting or beating !! ..Ah aw struck |
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| Jul-03-18 | | Sonia lamba: Qxe4 makes difference but it may take time to khuch khuch khuch mating net but this is like poison on very sensitive note ..Well done naka ur Waka Waka Waka ..Like boom boom Shaka laka ..Well hell done by Ne5 scroupting.. Nothing so basty |
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| Jul-03-18 | | agb2002: Black threatens Bxe4.
The black bishop is defenseless and Black's back rank is vulnerable. Therefore, 28.Qf3: A) 28... Bxe4 (or 28... Nxb4, 28... Rc8, 28... h6) 29.Qf8+ Rxf8 30.Rxf8#. B) 28... g6 (or 28... Kg8) 29.Bxc6 wins a whole rook. C) 28... Qe7 29.Bxc6 wins the bishop. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | BxChess: <Sonia lamba:> ChrisOwen is inimmitable. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | saturn2: I saw the doublethreat 28 Qf3 |
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| Jul-03-18 | | Walter Glattke: In the first moment I thought for 28.Qxe5 Bxe4 29.Nd6, while 28.-Qc4+ fails by Nxc4, 29.h6 30.Qxe4, and 29.-Rg8?? 30.Nf7+ loses the queen.
But 28.Qf3 is the better move. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | Walter Glattke: Nice was 28.Qxe5 Qd8 29.Qxe8+ Qxe8 30.Nd6 Qb8!! the only good move then, 31.Bxc6 Qxd6 32.Bd5, and black wins, so the 26 ply draw is the best continuation, and only 28.Qf3 wins. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Fun one. I spent some time looking at the e-pawn as well, before looking for a different way to exploit Black's back rank vulnerability ... and there it was! |
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| Jul-03-18 | | Mayankk: Happy to have found this rather subtle move. Usually I can find forcing capture moves but miss out on the subtle ones like today’s. Like others I did think of Qxe5 as well but once you spot Qf3 it is obvious that it is far superior. It was also helpful that Qxe5 has the same weak back rank theme as Qf3, but while Qxe5 is praying for a silly blunder from Black i.e. Rxe5, Qf3 wins by force. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | diagonalley: hmmmmm ... much easier to spot if one doesn't start with a "tuesday mindset"(!) |
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| Jul-03-18 | | malt: At first glance 28.Q:e5,Qd8
(28..B:b5 29.Q:b5 Qd4+ )
But 28.Qf3 Qe6
(28...B:e4 29.Qf8+ R:f8 30.R:f8# )
29.B:c6 Rd8 30.Bd5 wins a piece. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | leRevenant: I missed this one, choosing
28.Bxc6.
Would this be winning ? |
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| Jul-03-18 | | ChessHigherCat: <leRevenant: I missed this one, choosing
28.Bxc6.
Would this be winning ?>
Stockfish gives it a slight plus score +0.40 (22 ply) 28.Bxc6 Qxc6 29.Qd2 h6 30.Nd6 Re6 For further gory details, become a premium member and you can use SF to your heart's content (or to your heart's burn, if it shows your move is bad) |
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| Jul-03-18 | | patzer2: I was immediately tempted by 28. Qxe5 Qd8 =, but then I remembered Emanuel Lasker's maxim "when you see a good move look for a better move." That's when I saw the double attack 28. Qf3! +-, which threatens back rank mate or the win of a piece. So I picked it as my solution for today's Tuesday puzzle. P.S.: Black's position was already bad after 25. Bxe4 ± to +-, but 25...c6? 26. dxc6 +- (+7.23 @ 23 ply, Stockfish 8) made it too easy for White. Instead, 25...Qg4 26. Rfe1 ± to +- (+1.64 @ 34 ply, Stockfish 8) or 25...Bc8 26. d6 ± to +- (+2.01 @ 34 ply, Stockfish 8) offers more resistance. For an earlier improvement, I'd start with the opening. After the popular moves 8...Bf6 and 8...f5, it seems difficult to avoid getting a bad Bishop -- especially against a super GM like Nakamura. To avoid this, I prefer 8...d5 which gives Black's minor pieces easier development and more active play. According to our Opening Explorer, 8...d5 has been more successful than the popular moves 8...Bf6 and 8...f5. Moreover, 8...d5 = (+0.10 @ 36 ply, Stockfish 8) is the computer's first choice. Some recent examples of play with 8...d5 are Black's win in
Kiril D Georgiev vs A Korobov, 2017 and White's win in A Goganov vs I Frolov, 2018. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | 1.e4effort: My original thought was Qf3, but I guess I've been trained by CG over the years to look for sacs on Monday and Tuesday, so I thought its gotta be Qxe5 followed by RxQ followed by Rf8#. Shoulda went with my gut, I guess... |
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| Jul-03-18 | | BOSTER: White to play 26. for puzzle is good too.
Black pos had two weaknesses: Bc6 and square f8.We has to find how to use this. |
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| Jul-03-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa done
1. = (0.15): 8...Nxd2 9.Qxd2 d6 10.e4 Nd7 11.Rfd1 Rb8 12.Qe2 c5 13.d5 exd5 14.exd5 Nf6 15.Re1 Re8 16.Qd3 a6 17.Nd2 Qd7 18.a3 h6 19.h3 Bf8 20.b4 g6 21.Rab1 Bg7 22.bxc5 Rxe1+ 23.Rxe1 2. = (0.20): 8...d6 9.Ne1 Nxc3 10.Bxc3 c6 11.e4 Nd7 12.Nd3 Qc7 13.Re1 Rad8 14.Qa4 h6 15.Rad1 a5 16.e5 dxe5 17.dxe5 h5 18.Qc2 h4 19.a3 hxg3 20.hxg3 Nc5 21.Kh2 Rfe8 22.Nxc5 Bxc5 |
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| Jul-03-18 | | swclark25: I also bit for Qxe5. Thanks <patzer2> for reminder to look for better move. Got a chuckle from <BxChess: Sonia lamba: ChrisOwen is inimmitable.> How do you compare "time to khuch khuch khuch mating net..well hell done by Ne5 scroupting..Nothing so basty" with
"vizin pound wound hound vints built tubby butty bunts bints huffs flush huhus cuffs chuff" |
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