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| Jun-03-13 | | chessdgc2: Thanks chessgames.com! Do we get to see the end of another game? |
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| Jun-03-13 | | whiteshark: <Classical games: Fabiano <Caruana beat Gata Kamsky 2 to 0, with 2 draws.>> update:
Classical games: Fabiano <Caruana beat Gata Kamsky 3 to 0, with 2 draws.> |
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| Jun-03-13 | | botvinnik64: Wow! Fab beats the leader (Kamsky), but Dominguez is gonna win the tourney! Great stuff. Did Svidler resign in a completely winning position agst. Naka? Strange! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | lost in space: <<KlingonBorgTatar:> Rainy days and Mondays always get me down. ( the Carpenters) (It is raining here in Manila BTW)> I love Mondays! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | botvinnik64: Well, I don't know if there's anyone out there in CG land, but a special shout out to LP Dominguez for a great victory - totally unexpected and a very exciting finish! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | QueentakesKing: Time to order some pizza! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | SuperPatzer77: Lenier Dominquez beats Topalov to win the FIDE Grand Prix tourney in Thessaloniki, Greece today. Congratulations to Lenier!!! SuperPatzer77 |
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Jun-03-13
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in our live broadcasts these past weeks. Congratulations to Leinier Dominguez Perez. Followers of our ChessBookie Game know that he was at 82:1 odds; but the Cuban showed that perseverance and a bit of luck is all it takes to win a top tier tournament. Our next live broadcast will be the Tal Memorial in Moscow, June 12-14. Roster includes Anand, Carlsen, Kramnik, Karjakin, Caruana, Mamedyarov, Morozevich, Gelfand, and more. Hope to see you then! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | KlingonBorgTatar: <lost in space>, I am just feeling blue coz Kamsky lost the game and the first prize. I am happy though coz Monday is an ok day for u and thanks for cheering me up. Ok, I'll change the tune : Monday, Monday pa rah rah - Mamas and the Papas . :D |
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| Jun-03-13 | | RookFile: Tough game. 2nd place is still an excellent result for Kamsky! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | hoodrobin: Caruana is growing up! |
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| Jun-03-13 | | csmath: Caruana plays like a machine and Kamsky breaks down. The type of chess Caruana plays is very well exhibited in this game. He creates no weaknesses, makes no big errors and plays very sound chess like Karpov. Kamsky could not beat Karpov, Kamsky cannot beat Caruana. |
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| Jun-03-13 | | SoUnwiseTheKnight B4: Karjakin said about Caruana that he's a computer come to life. |
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| Jun-04-13 | | Tiggler: Clock times, as I recall them:
After 25. Rf1, Kamsky was already in serious time trouble: about 10 minutes left (no increment) for 16 moves. He seemed paralyzed by indecision, however: more than once reaching for a piece, then shaking his head and pausing again, before he played the obvious 25... Rg7 with less than 4 minutes remaining. At this point, he was obviously lost, though the position was not in itself losing. After 28... exf4 he had 68 seconds left for 12 moves. When the fatal blunder 35... Kh7 was played, he had less than 15 seconds left. At the end, his flag was about to fall when he reached across to shake hands. |
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| Jun-04-13 | | JPi: Yes <Tiggler> "paralyzed by indecision" are the words. Between the moves 15~20 suddenly the speed of play of Kamsky went incredibly down. Why?? Kamsky was obvioulsy in form during the tournament and knows well these types of position. Normally he will have no problem to draw this kind of closed position even against a top of the world. It looks like he commits suicide. Caruana's "killer instinct" ? Whatever Caruana played well but not remarkably mostly winning on time pressure. I feel pity for Kamsky. |
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| Jun-04-13 | | chessguru1: This game is another illustration of these two very common themes of chess strategy: over-extension and king safety. There are still heavy pieces are on board and too many holes and weaknesses on black's king position for little or no positional gain. |
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| Jun-05-13 | | fisayo123: How does h3 stop the Marshall though? |
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| Jun-05-13 | | Eyal: <How does h3 stop the Marshall though?> Well, compare the usual Marshall setup of 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 with the position reached after 8.h3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4. Here 8.h3 is clearly more useful for White than 8.c3, as he can now follow up with, say, 14.Qd3 instead of weakening the light squares by 14.g3; also, the c3 square is available for his knight which can help him develop faster in some lines. (The latter reason is why even a move like 8.a3 is used as an anti-Marshall.) |
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| Jun-06-13 | | JPi: Yes <Eyal> but without d4 isn't difficult to generate an attack on king side? In the actual game 16or17...Bf8 to exchange the most aggressive piece seems equalize quite easily. In fact I don't why Kamsky didn't play in such way. |
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| Jun-06-13 | | Eyal: <JPi> I don't know - I think the resulting position in too complex to dismiss it as easy equality for Black. (A few moves later, an exchange of bishops did take place and it didn't exactly solve all of Black's problems - though the losing mistake[s] apparently came at a later stage of the game.) At any rate, I was talking only about why 8.h3, compared with 8.c3, discourages 8...d5 by Black - playing like that doesn't necessarily mean that White gives up on pushing d4 with more gradual preparation. And if White wants to build his game on K-side attack, then <allowing> the Marshall certainly doesn't seem like the way to go... |
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| Jun-06-13 | | fisayo123: <Eyal> Thanks again. Hope to see your comments on Tal memorial. |
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Jun-06-13
 | | PawnSac: < Tiggler: He seemed paralyzed by indecision At this point, he was obviously lost, though the position was not in itself losing. After 28... exf4 he had 68 seconds left for 12 moves. When the fatal blunder 35... Kh7 was played, he had less than 15 seconds left. At the end, his flag was about to fall when he reached across to shake hands.> I just got back from a trip down south so didn't get to see the last round.
After playing thru the game with no knowledge of the time control it seemed black had a fine game. And i agree Kh7 lost not only the game but the tournament. If Kamsky had a "pissy" attitude during the post game analysis that is understandable. He was probably very angry with himself for mismanaging his time, tho on the board the position seems quite defendable with 35. ..Qf6 and there may be another alternative, i don't know. i haven't put any serious thought into it. I only had an immediate reaction to Kh7. Looking at only the game i would not have known he was that indecisive, since the game progressed consistently.
Its a shame the game ended as it did after such a fine performance, and a disappointment for me of course, since i hoped Gata would win the tourney.
But that's how it goes. Without the Kh7 boo-boo it probably should have been drawn, which would have put Kamsky and Dominguez tied for first. |
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| Jun-06-13 | | Tiggler: <PawnSac> I posted what I remembered of the times because it was obvious that the game would be incomprehensible to one who did not know them. With modern clocks and boards that detect the moves, it should be easy to have a game score that includes the times, but .pgn would not be able to include them. Too bad. |
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| Jun-06-13 | | schweigzwang: It would be great for game scores to include the times as well! Perhaps it's time for pgn's successor. |
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| Jun-06-13 | | JPi: Thanks for your anwer <Eyal> <A few moves later, an exchange of bishops did take place and it didn't exactly solve all of Black's problems> Right but when Kamsky exchange dark squares B it was a bit late. White got an edge by playing f4.. Bf8 at moves 16. or 17. will not offer easily such possibility. |
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