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| Sep-24-12 | | Eyal: Looks like Gelfand missed it - <53.Rh7 Kg8 54.Rh1> has been played, according to the video. |
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| Sep-24-12 | | Eyal: ...But Wang Hao blundered horribly with 55...Kh7?? and should get mated after 56.Kf7. |
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Sep-24-12
 | | tamar: Apparently Gelfand missed it, but got the mate anyway when Wang Hao blundered. |
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| Sep-24-12 | | Maatalkko: Shot by the blunderbuss! |
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| Sep-24-12 | | waustad: The party is oer, just in time to get ready for Bilbao! |
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Sep-24-12
 | | benveniste: Odd to see a pair of bad moves when the position was fairly simple and there was no time pressure. Fatigue? |
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| Sep-24-12 | | whiteshark: We know this will end ugly! |
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| Sep-24-12 | | MarkFinan: Just resign..kh7??? |
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| Sep-24-12 | | waustad: It already did a while ago. They left the table but it seems that the board didn't get the message. |
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Sep-24-12
| | tamar: Apparently the Dancing Rook has protested about the enormous head of Gelfand presenting a safety issue. |
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Sep-24-12
 | | tpstar: <chessgames.com> Thanks for the live broadcast. =) Interesting that an older player like Gelfand can grind out endgame wins against youngsters like Nakamura and Wang Hao. I do feel sorry for professionals having to remember a ton of opening theory only to remember a ton of endgame theory without the luxury of adjournments. But that's why they make the big bucks. =) |
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Sep-24-12
 | | Peligroso Patzer: It seems to me that Black would have been in no practical danger if he had played <55. ... Rxf4>. Does anyone see a continuation from there for White that wins or even offers good practical chances? If not, how many question marks should be appended to <55. ... Kh7>? |
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| Sep-24-12 | | whiteshark: I wouldn't have done it worse. |
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| Sep-24-12 | | Marmot PFL: <Peligroso Patzer> Yeah that's an easy draw. The whole thing makes no sense unless some higher power is backing Gelfand. |
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Sep-24-12
| | tamar: Probably the explanation is tiredness, but Wang Hao not only had to miss the mate, but as Peligroso Patzer points out, had to miss that after 55...Rxf4 
click for larger view this is a stone draw |
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| Sep-24-12 | | whiteshark: It took Wang Hao 75 seconds to decide for the last move. http://new.livestream.com/accounts/...
(4h41m13s - 4h42m28s)
He must really tired. I think yesterday he said he'd some health problems and also didn't sleep well. |
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| Sep-24-12 | | BadKnight: all the tenacious resistance goes to waste in a matter of flash. brutal game chess. |
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| Sep-24-12 | | theodor: even children know, that R+K+p against R and K in opposition is a dead draw!!! |
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| Sep-24-12 | | theodor: <benveniste: Odd to see a pair of bad moves when the position was fairly simple and there was no time pressure. Fatigue?> bookmaking! |
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| Sep-24-12 | | Blaise99a: Move 55 would make a rather nice puzzle....'Black to move and be mated'.... |
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| Sep-24-12 | | goodevans: I can't believe it. Only four rounds into the tournament and I have my second addition from it to my <find the worst move> collection. This one was not quite as spectacular as Kasimdzhanov's helpmate in Kasimdzhanov vs Nakamura, 2012. |
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| Sep-24-12 | | Eyal: As I've mentioned before the game started, in their previous game (Wang Hao vs Gelfand, 2010) Gelfand resigned in a drawn position, so here Wang Hao balanced the score by blundering mate in a drawn position. Wang Hao blundered already with <49...f5+?> and from there Gelfand could have actually won the game by force with a similar mating idea: after 50.Ke5 Rxe3+ 51.Kf6 Kg8 (51...Ke8 loses to 52.Re7+ followed by 53.d5): 
click for larger viewshould come 52.Rc8+ Kh7 53.Kf7 - threatening to swing the rook over to the h-file via c2 or c1 and mate; Black can defend with his rook against this threat, but he'll have to give up the e6 pawn and then White's d-pawn should decide the game. |
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| Sep-25-12 | | wordfunph: Wang's smiling face after 55...Kh7??
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
the struggle and joy of chess :) |
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Sep-26-12
| | tamar: In the postgame interview, Wang Hao explained that he didn't see that g5 was controlled by the pawn on f4. Given that his thoughts had focussed on 55...Rxf4, it is my guess that he mentally had already committed to that move, and then noticed that the h file was open for a King move, so why not make that move first and retain the e pawn one more move. Krogius mentions this type of error in "Psychology in Chess". |
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| Sep-29-12 | | Eyal: Some rapid comments by Gelfand on the endgame, taken by Daniel King: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-g...; and King's more detailed analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?sJ-gCT... |
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