Zahar Efimenko vs Richard Forster (2011) Forster and Seven Sacs Ago

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Zahar Efimenko vs Richard Forster
"Forster and Seven Sacs Ago" (game of the day Dec-17-2011)
European Team Championship (2011), Porto Carras GRE, rd 7, Nov-09
Sicilian Defense: Dragon. Yugoslav Attack Panov Variation (B76) · 0-1

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Nov-10-11		Phony Benoni: <Dr. J> After <28.Qxd7>: click for larger view It looks like Black has the possibility of 28...Rxd7 29.Rxf4 exd2 30.Be2 d1Q+ 31.Bxd1 Rxd1+ 32.Ka2 Rd2, with an extra pawn or so. But I don't know if that's better than the game or not. It's too dark to analyze properly right now. I prefer a room with a view.

Dec-17-11		xthred: Wow. Killer.

Dec-17-11		rilkefan: Why not 15...Nxc2+? And how does black continue the attack after 26.Rd4?

Dec-17-11		thegoldenband: Great game, and a great pun too. I think I counted seven sacs, at that!

Dec-17-11		rilkefan: Anyway, I sure hope 15...Bf6 is wrong, I hate giving up that bishop in Dragon and open KID lines.

Dec-17-11		Gilmoy: Dedicated to the proposition that <some pawns are worth more than others>

Dec-17-11		HeMateMe: Is 43...R-a1+ what's called a "forcing move"? White was forced to resign.

Dec-17-11		Llawdogg: Nice to see this kind of chess can still be found today.

Dec-17-11		onur87: This is the real, amazing, beautiful chess!

Dec-17-11		Kimmel: Abe would have approved.

Dec-17-11		FSR: 27...Rcxd7!! was an outrageous swindle, one clever enough that a 2700+ player fell into it. As for the opening, I was surprised to see that 7...Bxg4, which at first blush looks absurd, has been played 12 times and gotten Black a plus score! Opening Explorer 12...d5 is a surprising theoretical novelty - it looks unsound, and perhaps it actually is. Incidentally, Black is an IM who spent <three years> researching and writing the most amazing chess biography I have ever seen - on Amos Burn. http://www.chesshistory.com/burn/co... As John Watson has said, it's a shame he didn't choose a more interesting subject. Forster's research did, however, unearth the most spectacular move of all time - Black's 33rd in E MacDonald vs Burn, 1910.

Dec-17-11		getnacke: This is truly s beauty by Forster!

Dec-17-11		Penguincw: Wow. Dragging the king into a position where black will queen with check.

Dec-17-11		kevin86: Black will soon make a third queen and will win easily.

Dec-17-11		whiteshark: What is the pun about?

Dec-17-11		newshutz: <whiteshark> The first line of Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is "Four score and seven years ago" For those of you outside the USA, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is a very fine example of rhetoric, issued at a critical time (politically) during the American Civil War.

Dec-17-11		JohnBoy: <whiteshark> - "Four score and seven years ago..." start of Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg address. The clearest, most succinct explanation of the American experiment I know of. BTW - did you close your personal forum? I posed an innocuous question there and find myself unable to return. Have I been banned?

Dec-17-11		JohnBoy: I don't get much of this game. Why not 15.de? Looks to me like a great swindle starting with black's 27th.

Dec-17-11		Chessmensch: <FSR> Interestingly, Deep Fritz 12 finds black's 33rd (in MacDonald vs. Burn) in about one-hundreth of a second as the overwhelmingly preferred move.

Dec-17-11		FSR: <Chessmensch: <FSR> Interestingly, Deep Fritz 12 finds black's 33rd (in MacDonald vs. Burn) in about one-hundreth of a second as the overwhelmingly preferred move.> A sad commentary, isn't it? It's a little like how a dog would regard the knowledge of how to turn a doorknob as profound, while it's trivial to a human.

Dec-17-11		JoergWalter: My first chess computer was a Novag Superconstellation. Before I tried to solve the "Indian problem". and then gave it to the computer. nothing came out, so I thought "whoah very difficult, that is why I didn't find the solution." Then I pressed the start button and immediately the solution was there. I stopped smoking fresh lawn cuttings and tried purple pills.

Dec-18-11		whiteshark: Thanks <newshutz> and <JohnBoy>!

Dec-18-11		whiteshark: <JohnBoy> No worries, I simply closed it as announced! I do it regularly twice a year. An 'no' as short answer to your question. Have a nice Day! :D

Dec-20-11		rilkefan: <<JohnBoy>: Why not 15.de?> White in a a quandary about where to park his king - opening up the center (and maybe the f file) is scary. My first thought is 15...Qh4+ 16.Bg3 (box) Qf6. Here 0-0-0 is awful even ignoring ...Bh6. And ...Nc2 is threatened. If Qe2 to at least hold the (e) pawn then black still wins c2 with ...Ne3, and anyway has what appears to be an easy game - I'm tempted by about a dozen moves here, at least one of them ought to be good.

Feb-17-12		GrahamClayton: <rilkefan>Why not 15...Nxc2+? <rilkefan>, After 16. ♔d1 ♘xa1 17. ♘xa1 White has a Bishop and Knight versus Rook and two pawns. The passed d-pawn is also an advantage for White.

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