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| Dec-28-11 | | TheFocus: <Robed.Bishop> <If you look back a page or so, you'll find that Eric Jonsson was dead when he played this game.> It is very easy to beat the dead. I usually make a move, and wait while the time on the clock runs out. |
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| Dec-28-11 | | Robed.Bishop: <TheFocus> That's not very sportsman-like. I use a Ouija board. |
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| Dec-28-11 | | Glider: LIFE Master AJ I have recently just started studying this opening and I have found that 9...b5 seems to be more of a blunder than a trap. I.A. Horowitz (Chess Openings: Theory and Practice (1964) p.376) called the move "dubious because of 10.BxN!" (sorry Bxf6 the book uses the descriptive system of chess notation)
10...Qxf6 11.Bxb5 axb5 12.Ndxb5 Qd8 13.Nxd6+ Bxd6 14.Qxd6 Ne7 15.f5 (Bonch-Osmolovsky - Geller, USSR 1957) or
10...gxf6 11.f5! Nxd4 12.Qxd4 Bh6+ 13.Kb1 Bf4 14.Ne2 Be5 15.Qd2 Qc7 16.g3 Rc8 17.Bh3 Qc5 18.Nf4! (Tal - Malich, Warna 1958) |
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| Dec-28-11 | | Robed.Bishop: Apparently, Mr. Jonsson's knowledge of theory had decayed at the time of this game... |
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| Dec-28-11 | | TheFocus: <Robed.Bishop> That was a rotting joke. |
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| Dec-28-11 | | Glider: Excellent game! LIFE Master AJ |
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| Dec-28-11 | | Robed.Bishop: <TheFocus> I guess we should bury it, never to be resurrected. |
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| Dec-28-11 | | King Death: < TheFocus: It is very easy to beat the dead.> Didn't Korchnoi supposedly play a game with Maroczy? |
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Dec-28-11
 | | FSR: <Glider> That book is almost 50 years old, and doesn't reflect modern theory. Black does well enough (a slight plus score, even) after 10...gxf6. Opening Explorer After 10...gxf6 11.f5, 11...Qb6 gives Black an even score. Opening Explorer |
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| Dec-28-11 | | Shams: <King Death> <Didn't Korchnoi supposedly play a game with Maroczy?> Less well known is that he was also sleeping with the ghost of Maroczy's wife. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | King Death: <Shams> It must be that Petra Leeuwerik had lost a lot of charm by then. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | Nemesistic: <JW> Where did you get them pics of AJ on the "clothing optional" beach LOL .. <DC> Welcome.. As a fully fledged member of "The Troop" myself,you're invited to be my Underboss in all "Troop related" behaviour? However i fully understand if you would like to kickstart your "Troop career" under the wings of a more experienced "Troop member".. Someone who can guide and nurture you and who has the time to bring through new blood,till its time to pass the baton upon that particular "Troop members" retirement from all Troop related activities.. We have rules in "Troop club" though.. Rule number one: We never run to the admins page to complain about any other members! We deal with that type of behaviour in-house! There's bodies of ex "Troop members" buried all over Penascola Fl.. Now if you'd just like to prick your finger with a needle until blood is drawn and sign the membership form.. Your in!! |
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| Dec-29-11 | | Robed.Bishop: Or finger your... |
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Dec-29-11
| | FSR: <Shams: <King Death> <Didn't Korchnoi supposedly play a game with Maroczy?> Less well known is that he was also sleeping with the ghost of Maroczy's wife.> Maroczy was quite an old (indeed, dead) Geza by then. It's no surprise that Korchnoi was the Viktor in the battle for Mrs. Maroczy's affections. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | tacticalmonster: Another resurrection story...Instead of going for a GM title, <LMAJ> try to play God himself. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | ajile: In this line isn't 10..gxf6 the normal move? This is what makes this line distinctive isn't it? |
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| Dec-29-11 | | King Death: < ajile: In this line isn't 10..gxf6 the normal move?> Yes, 10...gf is way more common here. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | galdur: 10...Qf6 isn´t quite extinct, I found about 15 games since 2000 with black scoring 40%. The final position in this game can be found in six games of 30-45 moves, from 1990-2009, at chesslive.de. White´s score, five wins one loss. |
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Dec-29-11
| | FSR: Here's one such game, from 365chess.com: http://www.365chess.com/view_game.p... |
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| Dec-29-11 | | galdur: I think Mr. Goldsby´s story is plausible.
He said he was serving at U.S. radar station Rockville in Iceland at the time and indeed this station existed as did the Keflavik base (U.S. forces left Iceland a few years ago). I´m not sure about the name of the black player, maybe it´s a question of misunderstanding or misremembering. Also the name of the tournament might not be exact. But, all in all, I see no special reason to accuse Mr. Goldsby of falsification. |
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Dec-29-11
 | | OhioChessFan: <KingG: By the way, there was no need for Black to resign in the final position. There is no doubt he is much worse, but he can continue with 18...Qc7 19.Qxg7 Rf8 20.Rd2 Nc8 21.Rhd1 Nb6, followed by maybe putting the knight on d5(and from there sometime on e3), the king on e7, and the rook on c8. White is better, but Black can fight, and the game hardly wins itself.> That's the line I came up with also. Instead of an eventual Rc8, Black could also try f6 and Rf7. Anyway, I sure don't think Black had any need to resign. After 21...Nb6
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| Dec-29-11 | | Robed.Bishop: <galdur> Seriously, he's listed Eric Jonsson as the black player with a rating of 2300. Mr. Jonsson apparently wasn't some completely unknown club player, yet the only person who fits this bill was dead at the time. If this isn't a "special reason" to suspect some faulty facts, then please tell me what that means. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | galdur: <Robed.Bishop>
Yeah, I know. Life Master plays Dead Guy? Could be a case of mistaken identity though. Jonsson is an extremely common surname in Iceland. Maybe Mr. Goldsby could disclose the age and nationality of this player. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | galdur: I suspect that black was one Eiríkur (the Icelandic version of the name Eric) Jónsson which was an unknown club player in 1980 at age 20 or so and has remained an obscure chess player to this day. No way that he has reached 2300 during his lifetime, maybe 1800-2000 at best. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | Robed.Bishop: <galdur> Certainly a correction needs to be made and perhaps you are right about his identity. All we can say at this point is that the man's identity is in doubt and has been for some time, yet no further information has been forthcoming to in any way help identify him. What conclusions can we draw from this last fact? |
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