Jul-25-10 | | DarthStapler: Great queen sac |
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Sep-10-20 | | rwbean: Very nice, RIP Svetushkin. Black has to play 9... a6 as in Fischer - Olafsson (1959). After that White is always over +2 (Stockfish 12). 12... ♕xb2? and 14... ♘xd1? allow beautiful winning play by White. You wonder about the whole 6... c5 idea because 9. c3 is also >+1. |
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Sep-27-20 | | newzild: Added to my Game Collection: The Best Games You've Never Heard Of. |
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Sep-27-20 | | Walter Glattke: The culmination of the white pieces decides, I played 14.Qd3 Nb4 15.Bxd7+ Kxd7 16.dxe7+ fxe7 17.Qc4 (threatens Qxf7+) maybe 17.-Ne2+ 18.Kh1 Nxe4 19.Nxe4 Re8 20.Qb5+ Ke7 21.Rab1 or 17.-Re8 18.Ng5 g6 19.Ndxe6 (threatens Qc7+) the tactic remembers to Anderssen-Kieseritzky, London 1851. |
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Sep-27-20 | | Walter Glattke: *(threatens Qxe6+) |
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Sep-27-20
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Impossible to analyze all the way to the end, but saw enough to claim a 6/7 week. Thought 15...Kxd7; 16.Rfxd1,Kc7; 17.Rac1 would prove the main line. |
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Sep-27-20 | | agb2002: Black threatens Nxd1 and Nxd5.
White has dxc6 and dxe6.
In the case of 14.dxc6 bxc6 (14... Bxc6 15.Bxc6+ bxc6 16.Qd2 wins a piece) 15.Qc1 Qxc1 16.Rfxc1 Nxb5 17.Nxc6 Ba3 and White hasn't achieved much. In the case of 14.dxe6 Nxd1 (14... Bxe6 or 14... fxe6 15.Qd3 seems to keep the iniciative) 15.exd7+ Kd8 (15... Kxd7 16.Rfxd1 looks risky for the black king) 16.Rfxd1 and White seems to have more than enough compensation for the queen. For example, 16... Nxd4 17.Nxd4 Be7 18.a3 a6? 19.Nxe6+ fxe6 20.Bb6#. I'd probably play 14.dxe6. |
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Sep-27-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: I didn't have the confidence for dxe6, so I went with dxc6, hoping that ... bxc6 wouldn't defend as effectively as it actually seems to. Qb3 wasn't much of a consideration, as it seems to result in a bland, open position with White a pawn down. |
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Sep-27-20 | | Brenin: A good puzzle. 14 dxc6 Nxd1 15 cxd7+ Kd8 16 Rfxd1, with three minor pieces for the Q, looked tempting, but Black can simply decline the offered Q with 14 ... bxc6, leaving White's Q looking for a good square, and then safely regain the piece with cxb5. The alternative 14 dxe6 Nxd1 15 exd7+ Kd8 (Kxd7!?) 16 Rfxd1 nets only two minor prices for the Q, and I couldn't see whether White's attack was good enough to compensate for this (apparently it is). Declining the Q with 14 ... fxe6 leaves White in a strong position after 15 Qd3, with Black's Q and N stranded and vulnerable to attack, and 14 ... Bxe6 looks no better for Black. |
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Sep-27-20 | | goodevans: I really like <12.c4>. Highly imaginative. It would seem that <10.O-O> was a novelty. Since black's next two moves were pretty predicable it's possible that 12.c4 was opening prep. On the other hand, with <6...c5> we were already in a very quiet backwater of the Caro-Kann which makes that scenario seem unlikely and 12.c4 all the more impressive. |
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Sep-27-20 | | mel gibson: Too difficult for me.
Stockfish 12 says:
14.dxe6
(14. dxe6 (d5xe6 f7xe6 ♕d1-d3 ♗f8-e7 ♗e3-g5 ♖a8-d8 ♗g5xe7 ♔e8xe7
♗b5xc6 ♗d7xc6 ♖a1-c1 ♗c6xf3 ♖c1xc3 ♕b2-b6 ♕d3xf3 ♕b6xd4 ♖c3-c7+ ♖d8-d7
♖f1-d1 ♖d7xc7 ♖d1xd4 ♖c7-c1+ ♖d4-d1 ♖c1xd1+ ♕f3xd1 ♖h8-d8 ♕d1-b1 b7-b5
♔g1-f1 ♔e7-f7 ♕b1xh7 ♖d8-d5 ♕h7-h5+ ♔f7-f8 ♕h5-f3+ ♔f8-g8 ♕f3-a3 ♖d5xe5
♕a3xa7 ♔g8-h7 ♕a7-f7 ♖e5-d5 ♕f7xe6 ♖d5-h5 ♕e6-d6 ♖h5-h6 ♕d6-d7 ♖h6xh2
♕d7xb5) +4.71/38 167)
score for White +4.71 depth 38. |
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Sep-27-20
 | | chrisowen: A nut bag a tell |
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Sep-27-20
 | | OhioChessFan: I expected 15...Kxd7 but White is winning regardless. 1) +2.89 (19 ply) 16.Rfxd1 Kc7 17.e6 Rd8 18.Bxc6 bxc6 19.exf7 Rd5 20.Rab1 Qa3 21.Rdc1 Qa4 22.Bf4+ Bd6 23.Ne6+ Kd7 24.Bxd6 Kxd6 25.f8=Q+ Rxf8 26.Nxf8 c5 27.Re1 Kc7 28.Re7+ Kc8 29.Nxh7 Qxa2 |
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Sep-27-20
 | | FSR: <newzild> Nice collection, but you're missing F Parr vs G Wheatcroft, 1938. |
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Sep-27-20
 | | FSR: <newzild> You should also consider D Khismatullin vs Eljanov, 2015, with the unique attacking move 44.Kg1!! |
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Sep-27-20
 | | chrisowen: Attack attack attack pb ? |
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Sep-27-20 | | goodevans: <FSR: <newzild> You should also consider D Khismatullin vs Eljanov, 2015> A fantastic game, for sure, but surely failing one of the two essential criteria for inclusion in a collection entitled <The Best Games You've Never Heard Of>. |
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Sep-27-20 | | RandomVisitor: Black starts to drift into progressively worse positions in the opening by playing the less popular moves, for example, 3...Bg4 is likely better. click for larger viewStockfish_20092708_x64_modern:
<50/61 1:20:57 +0.18 3...Bg4 4.d4 Nf6> 5.Bd3 e6 6.0-0 dxe4 7.Nxe4 Nbd7 8.h3 Bh5 9.Ng3 Bg6 10.Qe2 Bxd3 11.Qxd3 Bd6 12.c4 0-0 50/59 1:20:57 +0.38 3...dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Qe2 Nxe4 6.Qxe4 Nd7 7.d4 Nf6 8.Qd3 g6 9.Be2 Bf5 10.Qb3 Qb6 11.c3 Nd5 12.Ne5 Bg7 |
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Sep-27-20
 | | perfidious: <RV: Black starts to drift into progressively worse positions in the opening by playing the less popular moves, for example, 3...Bg4 is likely better.> It was what I always preferred, with most games going 4.h3 Bxf3 (never trusted the much sharper 4....Bh5) 5.Qxf3 Nf6. |
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Sep-27-20 | | RandomVisitor: <perfidius>Yes, and backed up by chessgames opening databse. Fischer has played this line as white. I wonder why the machine likes 4.d4. |
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Sep-27-20
 | | perfidious: <RV>, it should be noted that Fischer had a horrible time with the Two Knights at Bled-Zagreb-Belgrade Candidates (1959) ; banking on Fischer's stubbornness in his favourite lines, even Paul Keres opened with the Caro-Kann against him. |
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Sep-28-20 | | RandomVisitor: What, Fischer stubborn? I would have never considered it...
There is nothing wrong with the 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 line: click for larger view Stockfish_20092517_x64_modern:
NNUE evaluation using nn-03744f8d56d8.nnue enabled <50/64 1:16:16 +0.21 5...e6 6.d4 Nf6> 7.a3 Qb6 8.Qd3 Be7 9.Be2 dxe4 10.Nxe4 Nbd7 11.0-0 0-0 12.Nxf6+ Nxf6 13.Bf3 Rfd8 14.c3 Rd7 |
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Sep-28-20
 | | FSR: <perfidious> Contrary to popular belief, Keres had played the Caro-Kann before, including beating Tal with it a month before the Candidates. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... And Fischer's results at the Candidates Tournament with the Two Knights against players other than Keres weren't <that> bad: he beat Benko and Olafsson, drew Smyslov and Petrosian, and lost his other white game against Petrosian. But he lost twice to Keres. Of course, Tal famously scored 4-0 against Fischer at the Candidates without playing the Caro-Kann. So there were other chinks in young Fischer's armor. Keres again played the Caro-Kann against Fischer at Bled 1961, and Fischer again played the Two Knights. But that game ended in a draw. |
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Sep-28-20
 | | perfidious: On Fischer's early international career, perhaps a saying attributed to writer Minna Antrim is a propos: <Experience is a great teacher, but she sends in terrific bills> |
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Sep-28-20 | | RandomVisitor: A final look at the 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 line:
 click for larger view Stockfish_20092517_x64_modern:
NNUE evaluation using nn-03744f8d56d8.nnue enabled <56/72 9:11:44 +0.17 5...e6 6.Be2 Nf6> 7.0-0 Be7 8.d3 0-0 9.Qg3 Kh8 10.Rd1 Nbd7 11.Kh1 e5 12.a4 Qc7 13.exd5 Nxd5 14.d4 Nxc3 |
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