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Peter Svidler vs Hikaru Nakamura
European Club Cup (2009), Ohrid MKD, rd 2, Oct-05
Sicilian Defense: Nezhmetdinov-Rossolimo Attack (B30)  ·  1-0

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Oct-06-09  kellmano: Svidler really does have Nakamura's number.
Oct-07-09  paavoh: White's play seems almost too passive, but somehow he manages to restrict (or lure?) Black pawns on dark squares. There is nothing Nakamura can do in the endgame. A great positional performance by Svidler!
Oct-07-09  EdgeFor15: It looks quite hard to plan something for black after 15 b3. Almost any move available seems to weaken his position more or less.
Oct-07-09  timhortons: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...(B31)+as+White+

lets not forget svidler is a practitioner of rossolimo attack!


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im sure naka is intensely studying this guys game, why play a line that svidler like best?

in the past few weeks id go over actually how svidler play the rossi attack, i keep on replaying his games.

nakas 3rd move?

in kaufman book he discuss the 3 best option of black in the 3rd move.

<3...e5(this is probably the best of the unusual third moves.)4.0-0 Nge7 5.c3 g6 (5...a6 6.Bc4 b5 7.Bb3 Ng6 8.d4 with an edge)6. d4 cxd4 7.cxd4 exd4 8.Bf4(A good gambit move.On the obvious8.Nxd4 Black may equalize by playing...d5 after castling.)

kaufman in his book discuss thoroughly with the aid of computer the svidler-annakov 1999 game which cant be found in the databse.

Oct-07-09  dhotts: Why does Black resign, as I do not see a clear cut win for White? Your insight into this final position would be helpful.
Oct-07-09  Pyke: <dhotts: Why does Black resign, as I do not see a clear cut win for White? Your insight into this final position would be helpful.>

My best guess would be that Black is slowly running out of good moves. Just look at the position. What would you - as Black - play? Without dropping anything, and of course there's the pesky passed pawn on a6.

Sorry for being not too concrete.

Oct-07-09  timhortons:


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1. (4.20): 55...Ne8 56.Bb5 Nc7 57.Kc4[] Be3 58.Bb2+[] Kd6 59.Kxb4[] Nd5+ 60.Ka4[] Kc7 61.Bc4 Ne7 62.b4 Kb6 63.b5 Ng6 64.Be6 Nh4 65.Bd5 Ng6 66.Kb4 Nf8 67.Kc4 Ka7 68.Bc6 2. (5.12): 55...Bb6 56.Bb2+[]
3. (5.12): 55...Na8 56.Bb2+[]

(, 07.10.2009)

depth 21....

Oct-07-09  dhotts: <pyke> Thanks for your observations. My take is that Black has a8 covered and he can support his pawn at f4 with his King and Bishop. I sould simply move 51...Kf5 or 51...Na8 and try for a draw. I know Nakamura would see the same, but there must be something forceful here, or why resign. Capablanca should have resigned many times, but he would win in the end. There must be something obvious. What do you think?
Oct-08-09  Pyke: <dhotts> This is fun - going through this without any help (f.e. from a computer).

I think Whites Bb2 is the key. I takes away squares for the Black king and allows White to penetrate with the king. Which will sooner or later tell, I think.

If for example 55. ... Kf5 56. Bb2.

What should Black play?

F.e.

a) If 56. ... Kg5 (only King move) 57. Ke4

b) If 56. ... Na8 then Bd4 (BxB, KxB, then with the idea of Bd5 threatening the knight on a8 and winning material)

Oct-08-09  timhortons: when naka played 2..Nc6 , its like hugler offering his face to leonard for a punch and leonard jab it solidly before he could duck.

why he take risk playing the line when svidler is expert in rossolimo/ anti sicialian.

Oct-09-09  Jazzer32: was 45... d3+ necessary? how does white wins if black continue to move his bishop around (before 45.... d3+)?
Oct-09-09  Keith Dow: Dear Jazzer32:

I put it on my silicon monster and it looks like
45 ...d3+ is a loser.

45. ... Be7 or
45.... Kd5

Playing for a draw is better.

Oct-09-09  timhortons: so theres a drawing chances?
Oct-13-09
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  Mateo: <Jazzer32: was 45... d3+ necessary? how does white wins if black continue to move his bishop around (before 45.... d3+)?> It wasn't but Black is gradually losing anyway. The winning plan for White is :

1) bring the Bishop to g8.

2) bring the King to d3.

3) bring the other bishop to h4 and d8.

Try this plan with your computer. I am sure you will see that the eval will gradually increase for White...

Oct-14-09  Kinghunt: Nakamura's total score against Svidler: +0 -6 =2.
Oct-14-09  tibone: it's the russian chess school nakamura didn't go through
Oct-14-09  VaselineTopLove: Very Karpov like!
Oct-15-09  Jason Frost: "timhortons: when naka played 2..Nc6 , its like hugler offering his face to leonard for a punch and leonard jab it solidly before he could duck. why he take risk playing the line when svidler is expert in rossolimo/ anti sicialian."

It's unexpected and reverse phsychology.

Naka's mind "

Svidler: I am so bloody amazing at this opening, no one would dare play it against me.

Naka: Oh yeah, I will

Svidler: What!?!?!?!?!?!?!? You madman, I resign

"

It was about 90% chance of that happening, 10% of Naka getting wiped of the board. Got to play the odds.

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