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| Jul-11-09 | | percyblakeney: Jakovenko's game is the most entertaining of the round once again. |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Kasputin: If black could have kept the king at f5 and then brought the rook down to a4 ... but white has those rook checks against the king in order to hold the draw. Nice game. |
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Jul-11-09
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in today's live chess broadcast. Tomorrow is the exciting conclusion to the 2009 Sparkassen Chess Meeting in Dortmund, Germany. Please note: <THE FINAL ROUND STARTS TWO HOURS EARLIER THAN THE PREVIOUS ROUNDS> -- that's 7:00am (USA/Eastern), or 13:00 local time. Set your alarm clocks and don't be late! |
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Jul-11-09
 | | An Englishman: Good Afternoon: I was looking at 54...Ra5 to try and tie down White's King. Can still arise after 55.Rf2+,Kg6; 56.Ra2,Ra5. Now if 57.Kc4, Black's King can try to advance once more; 57...Kf5!?; 58.Rf2+,Ke5; 59.Re2+,Kf4; 60.Ra2,Kg3; 61.Kb4 and it's still unclear, but Black seems to have made a little progress. |
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Jul-11-09
 | | kamalakanta: <ketchuplover: Have a great day everybody :)> Thanks, you too! |
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| Jul-11-09 | | percyblakeney: 33. ... Rd7 was apparently a cute and complicated engine win Kramnik missed, but he played b4 immediately there. |
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Jul-11-09
| | kamalakanta: <chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in today's live chess broadcast. Tomorrow is the exciting conclusion to the 2009 Sparkassen Chess Meeting in Dortmund, Germany. Please note: <THE FINAL ROUND STARTS TWO HOURS EARLIER THAN THE PREVIOUS ROUNDS> -- that's 7:00am (USA/Eastern), or 13:00 local time. Set your alarm clocks and don't be late!> Thanks for hosting these games here! |
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Jul-11-09
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <AgentRgent: What a shame... although Qd6 Qb8 wasn't an easy find by any means...> It is a tribute to the great skill of these players that Kramnik was clever enough to set the trap 43. Qd6? Qb8!, and Jakovenko was clever enough not to fall for it (playing 43. axb4 instead). |
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| Jul-11-09 | | AgentRgent: <Ulhumbrus: After ...Ke6 in reply to Rf2, after Ra2 Black can force White's King back by the check ...Ra4+> I'm no endgame expert, but I think after Rf2+ Ke6 white plays Re2+ instead of Ra2 either repeating or driving the king back to d7. |
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Jul-11-09
 | | eternaloptimist: <Ulhumbrus> Krammy couldn't have won this game because of his weak ♙s. How was Krammy going to capture Jako's ♔side ♙s when all Jako had to do is keep his g♙ on g2 so it would be guarded by his ♖? Also, Jako's ♔ was centralized & guarding his c♙. It's a draw; neither side can make headway. |
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| Jul-11-09 | | cornflake: The final position is a draw with best play I think. This is the position I was talking about |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Dionyseus: <just a kid> <What about 43...axb4? >
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 x64 4CPU:
44.Qd4 c2 45.Qd7[] Qb8+[] 46.Rg3[] Kg7 47.Qxc6 g5[] 48.Qxc2 Qf4[] 49.Qb2+ Kg6[] 50.Qc2+ Kf6 51.Qc5 Rxe7[] 52.Qc6+ Kg7[]
= (-0.04) Depth: 21 00:12:31 291mN |
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Jul-11-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: It will be interesting to see whether in the future Kramnik (or any other GM playing this line as Black) will repeat the opening through 21. ... Qc2. It seems to me that if Jakovenko had played immediately 22. e6 (instead of first 22. Rxa1 and only then 23. e6), White would have been the one having all the fun (and good chances to garner the full point). Maybe Kramnik really had prepapred for this, and maybe White has less than I think, but I would love to see a game with this line continuing: 22. e6 Qxc4 (22...Qxa4?? 23.Qc7  ) 23.Qxc4 dxc4 24.Bxf8 Kxf8 25.Rxa1 ... |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Ulhumbrus: <AgentRgent: <Ulhumbrus: After ...Ke6 in reply to Rf2, after Ra2 Black can force White's King back by the check ...Ra4+> I'm no endgame expert, but I think after Rf2+ Ke6 white plays Re2+ instead of Ra2 either repeating or driving the king back to d7.> I have taken another look at it, and I agree. White does save himself, and for two reasons. Firstly, because although White's R has to blockade the a pawn, it can take a break from this duty to harass Black's King. Secondly, because White's King is advanced enough to become a weapon not on the King side but in the centre if Black uses his Rook eg after 55 Rf2+ Ke6 56 Re2+! Kd7 57 Ra2 Ra4+ 58 Ke5! or in this line after 57...Ra5 58 g3! Kd8 59 h4 gh 60 gh Ra4+ 61 Ke5 Rxh4 62 Rxa3 and Black can, at aby rate, forget about winning. |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Absentee: <Maybe Kramnik really had prepapred for this, and maybe White has less than I think, but I would love to see a game with this line continuing: 22. e6 Qxc4 (22...Qxa4?? 23.Qc7 ) 23.Qxc4 dxc4 24.Bxf8 Kxf8 25.Rxa1 ...> Kramnik played more than half of the game at blitz speed. Smells of home preparation (besides, this was the same variation he employed against Bacrot). |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Ulhumbrus: Jakovenko may have missed a win by, instead of 34 fxg6, 34 g4! eg 34 g4 c3 35 Rh3 b3 36 fxg6 Rg7 37 Rxh7! Rxh7 38 gxh7+ Kxh7 39 Qh5+ Qh6 40 Qf7+ Qg7 41 Qxg7 mate |
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Jul-11-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: <Absentee: ***
Kramnik played more than half of the game at blitz speed. *** >Jakovenko's 19. Kh1 varied from the game you reference, Bacrot vs Kramnik, 2009. Was Kramnik still going at "blitz speed" when a couple of moves later he played 21. ... Qc2, which does not seem to be the best move here? (21. ... Qe2, for example, seems better.) |
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| Jul-11-09 | | percyblakeney: <Was Kramnik still going at "blitz speed" when a couple of moves later he played 21. ... Qc2> Kramnik had gained four minutes on the clock at move 24, the 22. e6 line seems to end up with piece up for white but only a draw because of the black pawns, so Kramnik had surely looked at that line. |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Marmot PFL: Possibly Kramnik let up a bit knowing a draw today and white vs Naiditsch tomorrow is a very favorable situation |
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| Jul-11-09 | | whiteshark: Thankx to missed opportunities it will make the last round more exciting. |
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| Jul-11-09 | | WhiteRook48: especially because Kramnik's going to win that |
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Jul-11-09
| | Peligroso Patzer: <Marmot PFL: Possibly Kramnik let up a bit knowing a draw today and white vs Naiditsch tomorrow is a very favorable situation.> Well, both players missed 33. ... Rd7!! (winning for Black), but that oversight should probably be explained not by any conscious letting up on Kramnik's part, but rather by the very tricky tactics involved: 33...Rd7! 34.exd7 Rxe5 35.Rxe5 Qxf6 36.h3 (36.Re8+ Kf7 37.d8Q Qa1+  ) 36...Kg7 37.Re8 c3 38.d8Q Qxd8 39.Rxd8 c2 and Black wins in a manner similar to what could have occurred later if Jakovenko had fallen for 43. Qd6? In general, I think Kramnik made a serious effort to win. There were no realistic winning chances for either side in the final position. In any case, splitting the point today is a good result for Kramnik. |
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| Jul-11-09 | | hcgflynn: is 25. e7 playable? |
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| Jul-11-09 | | Ulhumbrus: <Peligroso Patzer: <Marmot PFL: Possibly Kramnik let up a bit knowing a draw today and white vs Naiditsch tomorrow is a very favorable situation.>
Well, both players missed 33. ... Rd7!! (winning for Black), > If 33 Re3 loses to 33..Rd7, an alternative is 33 g4, and this may win eg 33...Rd7 34 exd7 Rxe5 35 Rxe5 Qxf6 36 Re8+ Kf7 37 d7-d8/Q Qa1+ 38 Kg2 |
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| Jul-11-09 | | yalie: 33.Re3 is obviously a blunder ... but I wonder if Jakovenko missed a win by not playing 33.Kg1. When I play through it looks like Kramnik has to sac a rook to relieve kingside pressure and Jako after the queen exchange is left witha winning position. Here is a sample line:
33. Kg1 b4 34. fxg6 hxg6 35. Qg5 Rg7 36. Rd1 Rxe6 37. Bxg7 Qe7
38. Qxe7 Rxe7 39. Bf6 Re6 40. Bd8 Re5 41. Bc7 Re7 42. Bxa5 bxa3 43. Ra1 Ra7
44. Bc3 a2 45. Kf2 |
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