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H High vs Raymond Keene
Club match s Norwood v Mushrooms (1964), ?, Oct-01
Indian Game: Kingside Fianchetto (A48)  ·  0-1



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Mar-16-09  njchess: White makes an unsound sacrifice and then exchanges all his attacking pieces away. After twelve moves, he has no attack, much less a piece beyond the third rank. Keene obliges by forcing the loss of White's queen. The only real puzzle here is why White didn't see Rxf3 followed by Qh2+.
Mar-16-09  DarthStapler: Harder than a usual Monday but I got it
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  gawain: Beaten by a Monday puzzle. I lacked the vision or the persistence to find 18...Bb5+ This is a very nice move to force the back row mate.

I was aware of the d7 Bishop but was fixated on what it could do (or not) by taking at h3 in variations after 16 ...Rxf3 17 gxf3.

Mar-16-09  YouRang: Good Monday puzzle. Clearly the Q+B battery aimed at h2 with check is tempting, and therefore so is 16...Rxf3 which enables it.

But first, you've got to see the follow up to make sure that you get something for the exchange sac. At first I was looking at bringing my other rook over to e8, but nothing seemed to stick.

Before long though, I noticed that after 16...Rxf3 17.Qxf3 (or 17...gxf3) Qh2+ 18.Kf1, the black LSB is a killer at b5.

I don't know why I didn't see it right away. It's kinda sneaky about the way this bishop seems to be shooting around a corner. :-)

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  Once: <ray keene> Great to have you here - always enjoy reading your comments, and some sparkling chess too!
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  ray keene: <chessttcamps> and <once> thanks for your comments

in fact my list of victims includes

4 wins v nunn no losses
4 wins v penrose no losses
2 wins v speelman no losses
wins and no losses v botvinnik geller and tal ( that was a simul tho) and also 3 wins v miles with 2 losses 1 win and a loss v gligoric, 1 win v timman (and lots of losses) and also wins with no losses against mestel, darga, lothar schmid,furman, bagirov, and draws with spassky, karpov, tal, smyslov and euwe.i am trying to compile the absolute best database of my games here on chessgames.

Mar-16-09  Marmot PFL: <ray keene> I imagine you were happy to see 6 Bxf7+, a typical amateur "attacking" move.
Mar-16-09  DeltaHawk: Woohoo! I got this one pretty quickly.
Mar-16-09  GreenFacedPatzer: This was a good puzzle

And tricky, for a Monday. In "puzzle mode" I looked at two obvious attacking sacrifices, 16 ... Bxh3, which doesn't achieve anything, and 16 ... Rxf3, which is very promising, since it gets rid of the knight defending h2.

So I saw the right move, but I still took a couple of minutes to make it work. Clearly

16... Rxf3
17 Qxf3 Qh2+
18 Kf1

and then... what? How do we keep the King from escaping via e2? I was just _certain_ that the bishop on d7 was going to attack from h3 at some point, and that certainty prevented me from considering the simple attack from b5, which neatly answers all the questions. I eventually spotted Bb5, but it took much longer than it should have. I think I'd formed an unconcious rule that "attacks on f1 from along the b5 diagonal can always be blocked without too much trouble..." obviously untrue in this case.

So, an unjustified certainty in one move made me take two or three minutes to solve the problem, rather than a few seconds. There's a lesson for me here.

Mar-16-09  ruzon: MostlyAverageJoe hasn't been around for a while, so I will be so bold as to say that this puzzle is above average for a Monday. Any chance the number of stars can be correlated more to the puzzle instead of the day of the week? I should add that the puzzle difficulty has been very consistent week after week.

Mar-16-09  morfishine: I got one
Mar-16-09  MiCrooks: Here we go again! Another nice Monday puzzle! While the moves are pretty obvious, finding the nice Bb5+ which seals the deal is something that a novice might easily overlook. The temptation is to keep chasing after the King, but if you play Qh1+ first then it is you that are probably losing down an exchange.
Mar-16-09  spreadsanity: Tres Bon Raymond
Mar-16-09  muralman: Gee, I got an easy one.
Mar-16-09  apple pi: Was High playing for team 'shrooms?
Mar-16-09  WhiteRook48: got it in several seconds
Let's go High
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  ray keene: <apple pi> nope-i was the "fun guy" in this game!
Mar-16-09  SamAtoms1980: Zap, whiz, bang, pow.

Maybe close to Tuesday level, but the moves are very friendly to the eye.

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  Domdaniel: <chessttcamps> As you may have seen by now, the great man in person - or, as he puts it himself, the 'fun guy' Ray Keene - is a regular contributor to this site. Check out his page, a veritable hotbed of chess stuff, Keeniana, shameless book promotions, and gobbets of brilliant analysis.

Apropos this game, I should point out that *nobody* - not even Ray - had a rating of 2455 back in 1964.

But *if* he had - roughly equivalent to Nigel Short in 1982, or Garry Kasparov on the Tuesday before hitting 2600 - then statistically Ray should have won the world championship around 1972. I don't believe Fischer would have posed much of a problem to a talent of such precocity.

<H High>, of course, might have got there first. What does the 'H' stand for? Hans? ("Hans High, Englishman!"). Or "Hang Em"? ("Suspicions have been, ah, heightened by the inflated ratings of such Anglo-Myanmarese chess players as Hang Em High").

Or there's dope code. William Burroughs used to refer to heroin as 'H' and cocaine as 'C', leading to sentences like "The C high is like shooting electricity into the brain, but the <H High> is more like an ineffable sense of cellular comfort".

Not altogether unlike the feeling engendered by a win such as this. I suppose.

Mar-16-09  bramdas: Why not 16..Rxf3 and if 17. gxf3, then 17..Bxh3 with mate next move?

Thats an alternate ending if White does not take with 17 Qxf3.

Mar-16-09  zooter: <bramdas: Why not 16..Rxf3 and if 17. gxf3, then 17..Bxh3 with mate next move?

Thats an alternate ending if White does not take with 17 Qxf3.>

after 16...Rxf3 17.gxf3 Bxh3 18.f4 seems to hold well for white

A possible line might be

18...h6 19.Be7 and the game is quite even with possibly an advantage for white due to his being the exchange up

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  ray keene: "fun guy" was meant to be a feeble pun on "funghi" ie mushrooms -which was the club team i was representing!
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  Once: <Domdaniel> Or perhaps Ray's opponent had a stutter?

<ray keene: "fun guy" was meant to be a feeble pun on "funghi"> I'd stick to chess!

Jun-19-15  SpiritedReposte: <How High>
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  OhioChessFan: "High, Keene Boots"

<collective groan>

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