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Jan-19-09 | | Kaspykov: worst preparation i have ever seen
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Jan-19-09 | | I Like Fish: you...
ain’t...
seen...
nothing...
yet... |
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Jan-19-09 | | jon01: Short thrashed L'Ami with Evans Gambit last year. |
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Jan-19-09 | | ALwoodpusher: Is there no hope for black in 19...Bg7 20.Bxg7 Kxg7 21.Qxb7+ Kf6 being a pawn down? |
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Jan-19-09 | | Jim Bartle: I'd try 19...Bg7 20 Qxb7 Bxf6 21 Qxa8+. |
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Jan-19-09 | | luzhin: L'Ami left the right path as early as move 5(!) with Nxb5, instead of the standard 5...Bc5. What's strange is that this follows Chess Games' game of the day from only a week ago,(Breyer vs Foldes). Breyer played 8.d4, which does not seem as strong as Short's 8.Nf3, after which Black's position is already critical. |
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Jan-19-09 | | Ezzy: N Short (2663) - L'Ami,E (2603) [C48]
Corus (Group B) Wijk aan Zee NED (3), 19.01.2009
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Bb5 Nd4 5.Nxe5 <Nigel's had this position against Khalifman in 2001,> 5...Nxb5< This game is a good example of why nobody seems to play this move> 6.Nxb5< This game could end up as a fitting tribute to the late great Bob Wade who had this position back in 1949. R Wade v O Sarapu 1–0 >6...c6 7.Nc3 Qe7 8.Nf3 Nxe4 <Fritz only choice here is 8...d5> 9.0–0 Nxc3 10.dxc3 d5 11.Bg5 <This set up for black in this opening is just aweful. Black is miles behind in development >11...Qd6< Seems like a new move. The only game in the database with this position played 11...Qc5, which puts black in a complete mess> 12.Re1+ Be6 13.Nd4 c5?<This just puts black in a terrible mess. 13...Be7 14 Bxe7 Qxe7 15 Nf5 Qf8 16 Qd4 is probably black's best line. But even this is not the position you want from an opening.> 14.Nxe6 fxe6 15.Qh5+ g6 16.Qg4 Kf7 17.c4 d4 18.Qf3+ Kg8 19.Bf6 1-0 A fine example of a strong Grandmaster having a big chunk of theory missing from his armoury. Probably one of L'ami's worst ever losses. Nice rest day for Nigel though who has got off to a tremendous start to the tournament. |
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Jan-19-09 | | Marmot PFL: 5...Bc5 is the best move and I wonder what Short had planned. Maybe find out the next time someone plays the Petroff. |
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Jan-19-09 | | notyetagm: <Ezzy: N Short (2663) - L'Ami,E (2603) [C48]
Corus (Group B) Wijk aan Zee NED (3), 19.01.2009
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Bb5 Nd4 5.Nxe5 <Nigel's had this position against Khalifman in 2001,> 5...Nxb5< This game is a good example of why nobody seems to play this move> 6.Nxb5< This game could end up as a fitting tribute to the late great Bob Wade who had this position back in 1949. R Wade v O Sarapu 1–0 >6...c6 7.Nc3 Qe7 8.Nf3 Nxe4 <Fritz only choice here is 8...d5> 9.0–0 Nxc3 10.dxc3 d5 11.Bg5 <This set up for black in this opening is just aweful. Black is miles behind in development >11...Qd6< Seems like a new move. The only game in the database with this position played 11...Qc5, which puts black in a complete mess> 12.Re1+ Be6 13.Nd4 c5?<This just puts black in a terrible mess. 13...Be7 14 Bxe7 Qxe7 15 Nf5 Qf8 16 Qd4 is probably black's best line. But even this is not the position you want from an opening.> 14.Nxe6 fxe6 15.Qh5+ g6 16.Qg4 Kf7 17.c4 d4 18.Qf3+ Kg8 19.Bf6 1-0 A fine example of a strong Grandmaster having a big chunk of theory missing from his armoury. Probably one of L'ami's worst ever losses. Nice rest day for Nigel though who has got off to a tremendous start to the tournament.> In the <OPEN GAME>, especially with Black, if you do not know exactly what you are doing then you will be roasted alive. This game is a perfect example. |
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Jan-19-09 | | swordfish: It must be really embarrassing for L'Ami to lose like this in front of the "home crowd." |
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Jan-19-09
 | | ketchuplover: Now that's what I call short work. |
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Jan-19-09 | | I Like Fish: fish...
made...
short...
winnin...
looek easy... |
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Jan-19-09 | | hedgeh0g: Remember kids: don't try to play the Petrov! |
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Jan-19-09 | | dehanne: White missed the refutation 4.Nxe5! |
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Jan-19-09 | | DaveyL: Maybe we'll see a Halloween Gambit from Nigel next time! |
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Jan-19-09 | | dumbgai: Games like this just go to show you, supposedly "boring" or "drawish" openings can be devastating if one side is unprepared. |
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Jan-19-09 | | Kaspykov: @ALwoodpusher
its not only about one pawn after 19... Bg7
20. Qxb7
free rook or checkmate. |
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Jan-19-09 | | parmetd: 5... Nxb5??
Qe7 and Bc5 have been known for a very long time to be the only moves in this position... |
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Jan-20-09 | | beenthere240: After 9 o-o, couldn't black just ask if they could start the game over? |
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Jan-21-09 | | Salaskan: Horrible game. How can a grandmaster blunder on move 5 in a very familiar position? Why would he play 4...Nd4 if he doesn't know the normal follow-up? |
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Jan-21-09 | | hrvyklly: <Salaskan: Why would he play 4...Nd4 if he doesn't know the normal follow-up?> He probably didn't know anything about the other lines... |
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Jan-21-09 | | KingG: Yes, it's very odd for such a strong play to have such a huge gap in his opening repertoire. L'Ami must not have played 1...e5 much in his youth, otherwise it's hard to imagine he wouldn't have encountered this opening at least in blitz. |
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Jan-21-09 | | Akavall: <After the game, Short revealed that he had drawn extra motivation for this game, from the discovery that, during the Sofia tournament in 2008, his opponent had worked as Ivan Cheparinov's second! > http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Jan-22-09 | | Karpova: Steve Giddins: <5...Nxb5?! Already a perceptible inaccuracy. Theory recommends 5...Qe7 6.f4 Nxb5 7.Nxb5 d6 8.Nf3 Qxe4+ with equality. Speaking to reporters after the game, Short made a very interesting point about the cause of Black's defeat in this game. As he explained, many players nowadays, especially young players, are so used to rattling out huge amounts of pre-game opening preparation, that they are simply not used to thinking at a very early stage of the game. Here, after barely five minutes' play, L'Ami was already out of his book knowledge, and needed to start thinking deeply about the position. Instead, he played a couple of plausible-looking moves rather quickly, but they proved to be errors. In addition, the position is rather more critical than it appears, and by the time L'Ami started really thinking about the position, it was too late – he was already practically lost.> Source: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Nov-30-12
 | | perfidious: <luzhin: L'Ami left the right path as early as move 5(!) with Nxb5, instead of the standard 5...Bc5....> Agreed that 5....Nxb5 is a weak move, but 5....Bc5, while playable, is not the only good alternative-the move 5....Qe7 given in <Karpova>'s citation above is reasonable. |
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