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Viswanathan Anand vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Taking Bonn-Bonn From a Baby" (game of the day Mar-19-2015)
Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008), Bonn GER, rd 6, Oct-21
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Classical. Noa Variation (E34)  ·  1-0

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Oct-22-08  Kaspablanca: dreleper: I still wonder why Kramnik havent play 1.Nf3.
Oct-22-08  Confuse: I hope after this match Anand reveals the details of his preparation... only an extensive understanding of Kramnik's style could have allowed for such a series of wins to occur. At least, thats my opinion.
Oct-22-08  bishop5: Why this page does not show moves beyond 40? How can I see the end game for game 6? Thanks.
Oct-22-08
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  al wazir: The results so far in this match raise an interesting (to me) question: If Anand is this good, why did he do so badly at Bilbao???

Possible answer: He had his sights set on this match and was keeping a low profile.

Oct-22-08
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: <Ezzy> presents a valid alternative, because he approaches the question from a different philosophical viewpoint.

His notion that the WC process should be inclusive deserves serious consideration. Here are a couple of points I would like to make.

1. A top 16 tournament in this era would be far more inclusive than in previous ones. In 2005, it would have include a Polgar. Today, we have Anand, the first of what will become a long line of East and South Asians. 2. My own philosophy is based upon a belief the WC process should include only the best of the best, an exclusive philosophy, but one which (I hope) would produce a larger number of top quality games. Resorting to the top 16 of a rating list is not bad: think of what they had to do to reach the top 16! 3. There's no reason why we can't be both inclusive and exclusive. After all, the World Cup is inclusive all the way to the final 32 teams, and then strictly exclusive starting with the round of 16. Perhaps a 32 player tournament in 4 groups of 8 players, using both the top 16, and other players as recommended by <Ezzy>, is the way to go.

Oct-22-08  Repins: bishop5: Why this page does not show moves beyond 40? How can I see the end game for game 6? Thanks.

Go ahead with the arrow

Oct-22-08  bishop5: Thanks Repins!
Oct-22-08  Vishy but not Anand: <Stop lying. Kasparov was invited to Dortmund 2002 but refused the invitation. And you care to cite an example of where Kramnik "bragged" about being Kasparov in 2000?>

Historically any former World Champ always gets a rematch except Capablanca who was also a victim of Alekhine and then Kasparov, he does not need to pass on dortmund for finding a challenger like Kramnik who enjoyed a rematch in his format (match) after he lose in WCC in 2007.

And who said that "Kramnik "bragged" about being Kasparov in 2000?" No one except you so you have to answer your own question and dont lie, else read again what is posted. Kramnik will never being Kaspy, NEVER. Kaspy is in his own class at his heights like Fischer.

Oct-22-08  anjyplayer: I laughed at seeing Anand winning this third game.
Pawn march reminds me of kasparov, typical kasparov.
Oct-22-08  MaxxLange: I was lucky to have a really gifted high school History teacher, but even he rushed through WW2 so that he could talk some about the Cold War and Vietnam before the term ended

Attacking the USSR and then declaring war on USA was the folly of Hitler, thank God. There is no possible way that he could beat both of us at once. Stalin supplied most of the corpses, and we supplied the trucks and oil and grain and money, without which the USSR would have collapsed militarily. And we did the Western Front counter-invasion, after Africa and Italy, paying in blood as well as treasure

Oct-22-08  MaxxLange: sorry for the derail...the pawn march was Kaspy like, yes. very efficient finishing technique

Kramnik was unrecognizable today; the poor man must be in Hell right now

Oct-22-08  blacksburg: he may be in Hell, but there is a way out. let it go, accept defeat, and play for WINS, with nothing else to lose.
Oct-22-08  SatelliteDan: I'am not surprised that Anand is winning this match given that Kramnik plays for a draw with black and win with white. How is that stratagy good for either tournament or match play? Having said that I am somewhat surprised though that Anand has a 3 point lead already.
Oct-22-08  percyblakeney: <I'am not surprised that Anand is winning this match given that Kramnik plays for a draw with black and win with white. How is that stratagy good for either tournament or match play?>

At the moment Kramnik is +0 -7 =38 with black since his latest win (without including the Fritz games). It's just not good enough for a player of his level, considering that several of these games have been played against opponents like Smeets, Gustafsson, Tiviakov, Naiditsch and Motylev.

Oct-22-08  KamikazeAttack: <Udit Narayan: In the middle of the press conference, Kramnik apparently lost his voice but, being the quick-witted gentleman that he is, took a Gazprom lady behind him by the hand and sat her down on his lap. Then he moved his lips close to hers and, as each journalist asked him questions, muttered broken English in soft inaudible whispers so that only his "honey" could hear>

One day someone would laff at ur sorry attempt at humour.

Don't u give up now please ... keep trying lol.

Oct-22-08  slomarko: <Stop lying. Kasparov was invited to Dortmund 2002 but refused the invitation.> Kasparov was invited to Dortmund but there was NO contract that the winner of Dortmund plays against Kramnik.
Oct-22-08  JohnBoy: <hrvyklly: Stop picking holes. ... I know that it was the USSR who defeated Germany> The hole I'm picking is your second sentence here. While I agree that we are on the same side, what you claim to know is just not the case.
Oct-22-08  Vishy but not Anand: <At the moment Kramnik is +0 -7 =38 with black since his latest win (without including the Fritz games). It's just not good enough for a player of his level, considering that several of these games have been played against opponents like Smeets, Gustafsson, Tiviakov, Naiditsch and Motylev.>

Kramnik is a drawish player. He can be of equal even to a lowest rated GMs and gets a draw results and Anand is always aimed for a win whoever his opponents.

Though Kramnik is so lousy in a tournament due to it is difficult to study each style of opponents (he is not genius like Fischer and Kaspy) but he is good in a match play and he studied very well for sure Anand's style and opening weaknesses with the help of his computer. Same as what he did when he studied Kaspy before their match. He aimed for slow games and keeps drawing with Kaspy and wait until Kaspy gets tired of draws and make some risky moves to gain a point (he got only 2 wins then out of 15 games)and never give Kaspy an opportunity to have a rematch to make sure that he cant get his title back. I think Kramnik admires Alekhine the way he avoided Capablanca for a rematch so the history repeats itself, he did the same to Kaspy.

But it is Anand's fault why Kramnik is losing. He did not play e4 so Kramnik is like playing to another player now and not Anand and it becomes like a tournament again for Kramnik and he cannot switch that fast. What do you expect then? A devastating results of course!!

Oct-22-08  Woody Wood Pusher: DRAWNIK = LOSER
Oct-22-08  Gantreel: Anand is beating Kramnik comfortably. I don't know what's going on with Kramnik, but his play is pretty shocking. All credit, though, to Anand.
Oct-22-08  Shams: <WWP> please stop.
Oct-22-08  Poisonpawns: Kramnik is suffering from the "Domino effect".Gm3 was a really hard fought loss for him.He carried this with him into the next games and lost them also.I don't think he has ever been in this position before in a match,so it will be interesting to see how he deal with it.Will he play great chess now? or will he just fold completely? I think of Kasparov in 1984/85,down 5-0 to Karpov.Kasparov made a choice to fight grimly to the end.The rest is History.Who knows what would have become of Garry if he had just lost 6-0.Kramnik is at a similar point now.If he does not fight now,He is finished as a top 10 GM.His peers will see his weakness and eat him for dinner at every tournament he is in.Kramnik win or lose must show the will to fight.Kramnik dont pull a Larsen or Taimonov and get shut out.Pull a Kasparov,even if you draw the rest of the match,Show the eye of the Tiger.
Oct-22-08  cannibal: <Shams>
When someone's having an orgasm, it's neither polite nor practical to ask them to stop. Not that I don't wonder how two men playing around with wooden pieces can make someone cum, but everyone's entitled to his own fetish.
Oct-22-08  Whack8888: <Kamalantka> Thanks for sharing, I want to get that book sometime, but I already have so many books collecting dust ;). It seems like some of the things Bronstein thought should happen are actually happening. There is still a core elite group, but most tournaments have a new face or two. Also, in my opinion, it helps to fully enjoy top level chess you need to play your own tournament chess as well. Being a fan of chess in a participatory sort of way, ie you watch the games because you want to get better for your own games, is I believe how chess has and will remain popular.
Oct-22-08  Resignation Trap: <Repins> In case you haven't figured it out in the time since you last posted (I just arrived here), just click on Black's 40th move, then click on the > just below the board, and the rest of the game appears. Repeat process after move 80 for longer games.
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