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Veselin Topalov vs Vasyl Ivanchuk
"Passed with Flying Colors" (game of the day Sep-14-2008)
Grand Slam Chess Final (2008), Bilbao ESP, rd 10, Sep-13
Semi-Slav Defense: Meran. Wade Variation (D47)  ·  1-0

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Sep-13-08  firefly3: 43... Rxd7 44. BxR RxR 45. BxR b4 46. Rb6 b3

looks like it may give black some chances

Sep-13-08  Woody Wood Pusher: i was so sure those doubled passers gave him at least the draw as well....was 41...a4 the decisive blunder?
Sep-13-08
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  chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for making our live broadcast of the Bilbao Grand Slam tournament a fun and enriching experience, and congratulations to Topalov for his amazing performance.
Sep-13-08  Marmot PFL: Yes, 37...Rc4 was the last chance to hold it seems. Both really low on time by then no doubt.
Sep-13-08  Jole: No, i'm not using a computer. By 'seeing', I meant the lines that I was calculating in my head. It looks like Rf7 would have been better than a4 - or at least would have put up better resistance (ie sack the exchange to get the king out of its tomb and keep control of d8)
Sep-13-08  Marmot PFL: 41...a4 was no blunder, he was lost anyway.
Sep-13-08  firefly3: Nevermind what I said... Topalov could have covered the b1 square with the bishop, and snatched the a-pawn with his rook.
Sep-13-08  PinnedPiece: <firefly3: 43... Rxd7 44. BxR RxR 45. BxR b4 46. Rb6 b3

looks like it may give black some chances>

I'll be very interested to see this negated by someone with an engine.

How can it be?????

Resigned??????

Bah.

Sep-13-08  hardliner: And Topo is the #1 on the live list. No games for the top players before the next FIDE(?) list mean he will overtake Anand as the world #1.

Congratulation to Topalov and his fans!

Sep-13-08  hardliner: He is interview right now

http://www.soloajedrez.com/torneos/...

Sep-13-08  whiteshark: Congrats to Topalov for winning the tournament!
Sep-13-08  PinnedPiece: Well ok, so the 43..Rxd7 line loses both black's rooks. Not good.
Sep-13-08  Ulhumbrus: It is possible that 27...Be5? is a losing mistake and that 27..Re5 28 Rxe5 Bxe5 draws.

If this is so, this suggests that the second White Rook is more valuable than the second Black Rook.

This suggests in turn that the second White Rook does something which the second Black Rook does not match.

If we look at the final position we can see that the second White Rook threatens to remove the defender of the blockade, whereas the second Black Rook cannot replace it.

The games of this tournament provide more than one instructive lesson in the ending, and this game seems one of them. Black has to exchange a pair of rooks, because White can get more useful work out of the second Rook than Black can get out of Black's second Rook.

Sep-13-08  Jole: Ignore my Rf7 suggestion - white just sacrifices the exchange to win (posting at 3am equals BAD)
Sep-13-08  crafty: 43. ... ♖xd7 44. ♗xd7 ♖xc8 45. ♗xc8 b4 46. ♖b6   (eval 2.83; depth 20 ply; 2000M nodes)
Sep-13-08
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  maxi: A game Topalov can be proud of.
Sep-13-08  Marmot PFL: How many have been #1 this year? Unofficially Anand, Carlsen, Morozevich, Ivanchuk, now evidently Topalov.
Sep-13-08  Woody Wood Pusher: is that the strongest tournament Topalov ever won? If so, he is back in a big way and Kamsky will have his hands full!
Sep-13-08  agb2002: <Ulhumbrus: <chessgames.com> Another game?> Good idea, Aronian-Radjabov looks interesting with both kings in danger
Sep-13-08  Ulhumbrus: <agb2002: <Ulhumbrus: <chessgames.com> Another game?> Good idea, Aronian-Radjabov looks interesting with both kings in danger> I'd like to know what is happening in Anand's game. I am going to take a look at Polgar's blog site in a moment.
Sep-13-08  Ulhumbrus: Carlsen - Anand was a quick draw.
Sep-13-08  SetNoEscapeOn: <Woody Wood Pusher: is that the strongest tournament Topalov ever won? If so, he is back in a big way and Kamsky will have his hands full!>

It had the highest average rating, but as Sonas noted, that doesn't make it the most difficult to win, even if "rating = strength" (which it doesn't). It's a great tournament victory for him no matter what.

Sep-13-08  Woody Wood Pusher: <noescape><It had the highest average rating, but as Sonas noted, that doesn't make it the most difficult to win,>

No, well it doesn't exactly make it any easier!

Sep-13-08  SetNoEscapeOn: Sonas' point is that if you take these same players, and toss in say, Kramnik, Gelfand, Leko, and Grishuk, the tournament does not become any easier to win, actually it becomes harder, if you measure by % chance to win the event.
Sep-13-08  Woody Wood Pusher: <the tournament does not become any easier to win, actually it becomes harder, if you measure by % chance to win the event.>

That thinking only applies to pulling balls out of a bag or something like that. An 'on-form' Topalov would more than likely continue to fair better in the field than everyone else, so his chance of winning would not be decreased significantly by adding a few more players.

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