| Aug-04-08 | | luzhin: Identical to Nisipeanu-Shirov as played in 1999. Money back, please. |
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| Aug-04-08 | | percyblakeney: <Although Grischuk-Svidler looked very spectacular, in fact from A to Z the game was played many times before. The only new thing about this game was... names on the scoresheet. It was a mere repetition of Nisipeanu-Shirov, Las Vegas 1999, Brkic-Ragger, Maribor 2003, Agrest-Zdebskaja, Kusadasi 2006, Ivanchuk-Gelfand, Sochi 2006, and so on.> http://sochi2008.fide.com/round-5-r... |
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| Aug-05-08 | | XMarxT3hSpot: It seems kinda typical of Grischuk. Getting an early lead in a tournament, but doesn't have enough motivation to really think about winning the tournament and content with a draw. I'm recalling Baku Grand Prix (2008) . |
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| Nov-07-15 | | zanzibar: Here's a little more from <percyblakeney>'s link: <Svidler's explanation: "I'm not a regular Najdorf player and the last time I had 6.Bg5, I played 7...Qc7, against Kamsky in Baku. This time I went 7...Nbd7, for the first time in my life." In fact, Svidler had a special reason to go for this move, because yesterday, when playing football, he had injured his back and this still bothered him. "I thought if I can't sit, the sharper the game gets the better, so that it will be finished quickly!" And what about Grischuk? Well, he just mixed up the move order. "I thought I would surprise Peter with 6.Bg5, but in fact I surprised myself. I could not remember which variation I had analysed. I thought I had looked at this but in fact I didn't. Then suddenly I remembered the game Ivanchuk-Gelfand and I knew I had to allow the draw."> |
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| Nov-07-15 | | zanzibar: Note that 10.e5, despite its aggressive appearance, is very drawish (49% of the games). More common, and better scoring, is 10.Bd3.
(And even 10.Bxb5 scores better.) |
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Nov-07-15
 | | perfidious: <zed> That is indeed an irony regarding some of the sharpest opening lines, once the element of surprise has gone and some of the more complex pathways have burnt out. |
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| Nov-07-15 | | zanzibar: Well, at least it's not as drawish as this line from the English (221 games in MillBase, 93% of which are draws): < 1.c4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.e3 e6 6.Nge2 Nge7 7.O-O O-O 8.d4 cxd4 9.Nxd4 d5 10.cxd5 Nxd4 11.exd4 Nxd5 12.Nxd5 > Might be an idea for a couple of collections centered on super-drawish lines: One could just be called <Smooth Sailing>... the other <Calming the Seas>. |
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Nov-07-15
| | perfidious: <zed> That line was reason enough for me to always respond to 5.e4 with ....e6 and, conversely, to 5.e3 with 5....e5, so as to give White less of a chance to head for drawish waters off the top. |
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| Nov-08-15 | | zanzibar: A Botvinnik kind of guy then?
Anyways, mention of this collection by <FSR> should be made, whenever the talk of draws draws near: Game Collection: Drawing lines |
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| Nov-08-15 | | zanzibar: I have a few fun lines from the Traxler, let's show one: <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Nxe4+ 7.Kg1 Qh4 8.g3 Nxg3 9.Nxh8 Nd4 10.hxg3 Qxg3+ 11.Kf1 Qf4+> 
click for larger viewThis should be a perpetual, if White knows what's good for him. (But, believe it or not, there's a 1981 corr game where White went on to win <Wolff--Banscher (Corr DDR 1981)> <12.Kg2 Qg5+ 13.Kh3 d5+ 14.Kh2 Qf4+ 15.Kg2 Qe4+ 16.Kg1 Nf3+ 17.Kf1 Nxd2+ 18.Qxd2 Qxh1+ 19.Kf2 Qh4+ 20.Kg1 d4 21.Qg5 Qe1+ 22.Kg2 Qe4+ 23.Kg3 Qe1+ 24.Kf3 Qh1+ 25.Ke2> (There's a tactical in there for Black at move 15)
PS- FSR has quite a few Traxler's as well, though I don't think he has any games with the above. |
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Nov-08-15
 | | FSR: <zanzibar> In that line, Opening Explorer shows Black usually playing 9...d5 and usually winning. |
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Nov-08-15
| | FSR: Thanks for thinking of my collection. I already had Nisipeanu vs Shirov, 1999 in there, but I might substitute this one. |
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