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Andrei Volokitin vs Sergey Karjakin
Aerosvit (2008), Foros UKR, rd 5, Jun-12
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Classical. Noa Variation (E37)  ·  1-0

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Sep-09-10  Al2009: Dear Nuwanda, no, no, I have analyzed deeply, but White wins clearly that endagame, and without too many troubles.

After 36...Rg1 (as you suggested)

37.Rf3! Ra1 (if 37...Rxf3+ 38. Kxf3 Ra1 39. Rxb3! if 39...Rxa4? 40. Nxc5+)38. Rxf5 gxf5 39. Nc5+ Ke7 40. Rb7+ Ke8 41. Rc6! Nd8 42. Rxb3

You can check by yoursel, there are other sub-variations, but in any lines White finishes having always 1-2 pawns more, or 1-2 passed pawns, because after 30. Bxb3 and 31. e5+ White has more space, a very strong Rc1 and a passed pawn that make the difference.

I repeat: why White took so many risks in this game, having the chance to enter a superior endgame, not so difficult to win and without risk?

Sep-09-10  Al2009: ooops Nuwanda, there is a typing mistake, above: I wanted to write 41. Rb6! of course (not 41. Rc6)
Sep-09-10
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  Jimfromprovidence: This is simple but elegant chess, displayed in just two moves.

After 30 e5+, black has limited options, all no good. The king can't move to the c file because his c pawn is pinned, losing the bishop. It's either 30...Kd7 or 30...Ke7.


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Also, the a1-h8 diagonal opens up, allowing the bishop to put two pieces en prise with one move, 31 Bb3.


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These types of puzzles can trip me up, because I often assume simple moves can't be played because there obviously must be a counterattack somewhere. I got lucky this time because I assumed a pawn move would be prominent in the solution.

Sep-09-10
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  chrisowen: Why alter a winning rook structure 20..rd8 decorate swallow's nest? La femme Nikita bird soup is white sail anon initials 20..rd8 that heading off king additional stack. Estates chuffy order a crime e5+ shook and reason punish. In it climbs for square done push king Sergey and triple threat twig, jump bishop skip knight hop rook, lets pour ice on fire B randan steers an exchange black see cliffhanging.
Sep-09-10  NARC: openingspecialist: Same here
Sep-09-10  wals: I spotted e5 O.K, but no way the calculation of the text moves.

Black's error:
(+1.38):28...Nb7.
Alternative:

Analysis by Rybka 4 x64: depth 18:

1. (0.42): 28...h6 29.Rg3 Ke5 30.Bh1 Rxf2 31.Rxg6 Rh2 32.Rxh6 Rh3+

2. (0.44): 28...Rf8 29.Bd1 Rxf2

Black increases deficit:
(+2.41):29...Rxf2.
Alternatives:

depth 17:
1. (1.07): 29...Bxd1 30.Rxd1+ Kc5 31.f3 Kb6 32.Nc2 R4f6 33.h5 gxh5 34.Nd4 Rh6 35.Rdh1 e5 36.Nc2 Nc5 37.Rxh5 Rhf6 38.Rh6 Nd3 39.Nb4 Nxb4 40.axb4 Rg6 41.R1h5 Re7 42.Rxg6+

2. (1.60): 29...Nc5 30.f3 e5 31.Be2 Ne6 32.Nd5 c3 33.Nxc3 Rb7 34.h5 g5 35.h6 Rf6 36.Rh5 Nd4 37.Rxg5 Rxh6 38.Ba6 Rc7 39.Bf1 Rf6 40.Bg2 Nc2+

3. (1.89): 29...Na5 30.Bxb3[] Nxb3 31.Rxc4 Rxf2 32.Rc6+ Ke7 33.Nd3[] Re2+ 34.Kxe2[] Nd4+ 35.Ke3 Nxc6 36.Rf3 Rg7 37.e5 g5 38.hxg5 Rxg5 39.Kf4 Rf5+ 40.Ke4 Rxf3 41.Kxf3 Nd4+ 42.Kf4 Nb3 43.a4 h6 44.Nf2 Kd8

Black in more trouble:
(+4.22):37...Rc3+.
Alternative:.
depth 19.
1. (2.35): 37...Rxh1 38.Bxh1 c3 39.Kd3 c2 40.Kd2[] Kd6 41.Ng4 Kc5 42.Ne3 h6 43.Nxc2 g5 44.hxg5 hxg5 45.Bf3

Noting other Black errors.
(+7.05):38...Rg3. is the best shot.
(+10.60):39...c3. best shot,
Ba4, +7.74.
(+#10):41...c2. best shot, Rg1
+9.21.

Sep-09-10  EXIDE: Darn it, did not see the Bf3 move.
Sep-09-10  nuwanda: Hi <Al2009>,

after your 37.Rf3 there's the pretty much forced line 37...Rxf3 38.Kxf3 Nd4+ 39.Kf2 Rd1 40.Nc5+ Kc6 41.Ra5 and, in my opinion, its only black who can play for a win.

but i dont think there's much sense in bringing up now one line after the other. your statement "easy and sure win" is just not quite right, i think

...

Sep-09-10  tivrfoa: nice mate. nice end game!
Sep-09-10  patzer2: Today's Thursday puzzle solution 30. e5+!! begins a winning combination with a pawn deflection (sham) sacrifice to force the King to an unsafe square (i.e. any square other than the one he occupies). The move combines multiple tactics (i.e. deflection, pin, knight fork, double attack, obstruction) to exploit the forced relocation of the King to win decisive material.

Here's a breakout with Fritz 10:

<30. e5+ !!> This little deflection (pseudo) pawn sacrifice takes the Black King out of his comfort zone, so any legal move results in a forced loss.

Bad and actually losing for White is 30. Bf3? Rxb2 31. e5+ Kxe5 32. Bxb7 Rxb7 when Black's pawn majority wins easily.

White gets an endgame advantage after 30. Bxb3 cxb3 31. e5+ Kd7 32. Nd3 Rf1 33. Rc3 Na5 34. Rh2 Rd1 35. h5 g5 36. Rd2 Rxd2 37. Kxd2 Rf5 38. Nc5+ Ke7 39. Nxb3 . However, a win, even if there, is problematic and far from simple or assured.

<30... Kd7> This is the best move in a lost position.

If 30... Kxe5, White gets a winning Knight fork after 31. Bxb3 cxb3 32. Nd3+ .

If 30... Kc7 (or 30...Kc5 31. Bxb3 ) 31. Bxb3 exploits the pin on the c-file to win a piece.

If 30... Ke7, White uses the double attack and deflection (removing the guard or defender)tactic to win decisive material with 31. Bxb3 cxb3 32. Rc7+! Kf8 33. Rxb7! .

<31. Bf3!> Thanks to the King blocking the Rook's protection of the seventh rank, this move combines it's own obstruction of the f-file and a double attack on the Rook and the unprotected Knight to win decisive material.

<31...Rxb2>

If 31...Kf8, then 32. Kxf2 decides.

<32. Bxb7 Rf5 33. Bc6+ Kc7 34. Be4 Rxe5 35. Nd3 Rc2 36. Nxe5 Rxc1 37. Rh1 Rc3+ 38. Kd4 Rg3 39. Rf1 c3 40. Rf7+ Kc8 41. Kc5 c2 42. Kd6 Bd5 43. Bxd5 exd5 44. Nc6> 1-0 This final move surrounds and entombs the helpless Black monarch.

For the amusing finish, Black will be allowed to Queen with 44...c1Q only to be immediately mated with 45. Rc2#.

Sep-10-10  Al2009: nuwanda, sorry, but it seems you are afraid to analyze.

Even allowing that 37. Rf3 is not so good,there are other ways by which White can win, e.g.: 37. Rxb3 Nxe5 38. Rb7+ Kc6 39. Rxh7 and again White remains a pawn more, and 2 connected + passed pawns. But there is a practical point that you and other players are missing.

In the real game, around 30th move, in a zeitnot (or almost) situation, it is better to choose the line which gives a sure (even small) advantage rather than a risky and unclear one.

Sep-10-10  nuwanda: Hi <Al2009>,

you're right, i dont want to analyze this position with you in detail. Not because i'm afraid, i'm still convinced that black has good drawing chances in your line, its more your stubborn style of argumentation.

first you say, white wins the b-pawn (clear and easy win), then, ok i dont take the pawn i'll promote my a-pawn at once (winning), then, ok i cant promote the a-pawn i play very strong Rf3 (winning), then, ok Rf3 is not that strong i... (winning), ad infinitum (i fear).

i think already our little discussion here shows that its not so sure and easy at all, and that was my whole point. and it seems to me that Volokitin, after all a almost 2700 GM, shared this view.

greets,
nuwanda

Sep-10-10  Al2009: nuwanda, I can change my opinion, of course, no "stubborn" style of argumentation, and unfortunately I cannot discuss "ad infinitum", I have other things to do.

Analysis of a game means that people propose one or more lines, and then try to check and discuss together, to see what they find, and it is always possible to correct and improve the moves, nothing is final in chess.

I recognized myself -after your proposals - that the line played by Volokitin is winning, of course, but it is more risky - in a real game - than the one I suggested, although "my" line gives less advantage, surely less than the one I was thinking at first glance, therefore I changed my first opinion, I can admit that it is not so "easy" to win in that position.

As far as the topic of 2700 rating is concerned, sorry for you, but I can find you HUNDREDS mistakes played in real games not just by "almost 2700 rated chessplayers", but even by world chess champions!

You can just check under my nickname, and you will be surprised to discover some improvements (Ni-Hua (2710) - Hoyos (29.h4!); Tal (world champion) - Gasic (17.Nf4!!) Quinteros - Fischer (world champion) (23...Rxc4!!)) that nobody proposed before.

And I am analyzing WITHOUT any computer assistance, because every wood-pusher can ask Rybka, Fritz what to do, but without thinking over by himself.

Of course I can make mistakes as everybody else, but I'm writing here right to compare my proposals with the others.

Therefore, you are free to analyse whoever you want with, maybe I can survive if you don't want to analyze with me.

Bye

Sep-12-10  nuwanda: Ok <AL2009>,

one last word from me too.

my impression was, that from the very beginning your evaluation of the position, for whatever reasons, was fixed (a doubtful one in my view). and the whole further discussion, analysis from your side had just one aim: to proove your point of view.

in that sense you were not open for the "truth" or even for changing your mind just a bit, but only you want to "win" the discussion. in these kind of "discussions" i'm not interested, they are just a frustrating waste of time.

now your last post sounds quite different, so i may have been wrong. if so, sorry for that.

ride on,
nuwanda

Mar-11-21  Walter Glattke: A) 30.e5+ Kxe5? 31.Bxb3 cxb3 32.Nd3+ wins B)30.-Kd7 31.Be2 Na5 32.Na6 C) 31.Bf3 Rfxf3+ 32.Rxf3 Rxf3+ 33.Kxf3 Nc5 34.Kg4 Na4 35.Kg5 +-
Mar-11-21
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  al wazir: 43...Rc3 44. Bxe6+ Kb8 45. Nd7+ Ka7 46. Nc5+ Kb6 47. Rb7+ Ka5 48. Ra7+ Kb6 49. Ra6+ Kb5 50. Bd7+ Kc4 51. Ra4#.
Mar-11-21  agb2002: Black threatens Rxb2.

The possibility of creating a double attack against the rook on f2 and the black knight with Bf3 suggests 30.e5+:

A) 30... Kxe5 31.Bxb3 wins decisive material (31... cxb3 32.Nd3+ and 33.Nxf2).

B) 30... Kc4 31.Nd3+ and 32.Nxf2 wins a rook.

C) 30... Kc7 31.Bxb3 wins a bishop.

D) 30... Kd(e)7 31.Bf3 Rxb2 32.Bxb7 wins decisive material.

Mar-11-21  Refused: 30.e5+ and black is trouble
a) 30...Kxe5 31.Bxb3 cxb3 32.Nd3+ is the main line. b) 30...Kc5 now either 31.Nd3+ or 31.Bxb3 pick decissive material c) 30...Kc7 runs again into 31.Bxb3
d) 30...Kd7 is the most sturdiest defense. 31.Bf3 R7xf3+ 32.Rxf3 Rxb2 picks up an exchange, but arguably offers the best hope for survival e) 30...Ke7 31.Bxb3 cxb3 32.Rc7+ Ke8 33.Rxb7 +- looks good enough
Mar-11-21  Brenin: The solution 30 e5+ of this puzzle depends on a beautiful, almost composition-style combination of tactical themes: opening the long diagonal to allow Bf3, which attacks the N on b7 and blocks the mutual protection of Black's Rs; drawing the Black K onto the c-file to leave the B on b3 en prise; deflecting the P on c4 to allow a N fork by Nd3; and a few others I've probably missed. Thanks, CG!
Mar-11-21  Tomate: Very nice position. In which order should White plays? a) 30.Bf3? Rxb2 31.e5+ Kxe5 is very good for black b) 30.Bxb3? cxb3 31.e5+ Kd7 looks more or less equal. c) After 30.e5+! if 30..Kxe5 31.Bxb3 cxb3 32.Nd3+ forks the Rf2; if the black pins his king on the c file 31.Bxb3 wins a bishop. It remains 30...Kd7/Ke7 31.Bf3 with a double attack on Rf2 and Nb7
Mar-11-21  saturn2: Found 30. e5+ 

...Kxe5 31. Bxb3 cxb3 32. Nd3+

...Kd(e)7 31.Bf3 double attack on Rf2 and Nb7

...Kc5(7) 31.Bxb3

Mar-11-21
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  OhioChessFan: Well, I didn't understand any of that.
Mar-11-21  AlicesKnight: I saw the e5+ and the main responses to that, leading to win of the exchange or a piece. The subsequent tactical developments (which I didn't see) were, if anything, even more interesting. An excellent choice.
Mar-11-21  Oxspawn: I did not begin to see this and almost every white move made me think he had lost - virtually to the end. However, I did enjoy reading the spat between <Al2009> and <nuwanda> from 2010. Something vigorous and old worldly - pistols at dawn rather than vicious Twitter spitting. Of course I did not understand their analysis either or know who was right; I suspect they were both wounded. There is something gloriously liberating about being bad at chess - the game is even more surprising that way and the debates are firework displays for our entertainment. Roll on Monday when I still have a chance.
Mar-11-21  ahcorleafar: To be completely honest, I tried this one in hurry. Bxb3 followed by e5 seemed to be winning (how wrong I was!), and so I ended up missing Bf3.
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