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| Apr-03-07 | | TheHurricane3: Beautiful win by Gashimov. |
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Apr-03-07
 | | tamar: The rook play is fantastic. To play 20 Rf6! Gashimov had to see 20...c4 21 Qh5! |
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| Jul-13-07 | | ahmadov: Vugar Gashimov has just annotated this game on TV. He said he relied on his intiution when he played 23.Rxg7... |
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| Apr-26-08 | | KarAkter: 19.Rf4!! 1:0 |
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| Jan-19-14 | | M.Hassan: "Insane"
White to play 20.?
Material are equal
20.Rf6!
if..........gxf6
21.exf6 Qd6 to watch g3 square in case Queen checks
<if...Qd8 22.Qg3+ Kh8 23.Qg7#>
22.Qh5 Bxh3
<hoping 23.Qxh3 Qxf6 and getting rid of the nasty f6 pawn>
23.Qxh6 Qxf6
24.Qh7#
In case Rook sac is declined:
20...........g6
21.Qf4 g5
22.Rg3 Kh8
23.Rxh6+ Kg7
24.Rh7+ Kg8
25.Qxg5+ Qxg5
26.Rxg5#
Time to check.
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Not quite my line but similar. It just shows that the key move of 20.Rf6 opens up different avenues of resistance and all proven to be futile. |
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Jan-19-14
 | | al wazir: Because I knew that this was a puzzle position, I found 20. Rf6, but I didn't know what to do next. In the game line, what happens if black plays 23...Ke8 ? |
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Jan-19-14
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Too easy for a Sunday (translation--I solved it), but the buildup to the attack is a textbook example of Pillsbury's dictum "help your pieces so they can help you." White's best move of the game is not the puzzle answer, it's 13.Rb1, a move that does nothing except put the Rook on a half-open file. But helping the Rook on move 13 helps the Rook help White with Rb1-b4!-f4!, transforming a few pieces hanging around on the King side into an unstoppable force. Do you think 15...Rd8, intending 16.Be3,Bf8, might have helped the defense? If nothing else, it prevents the Rook lift. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Material is even. Black's position looks pretty sound, with the closest things to weaknesses being a lightly defended kingside and a lightly defended d pawn. So the obvious place to look for opportunity is a kingside attack. The f file is well-defended, and there doesn't seem to be anything on the g file that a timely ... g6 wouldn't stop. So the obvious target is the h6 pawn, and the obvious way to go after it is Rf6. However, 15 Rf6 gf
16 ef Qc7 (else 17 Qg3+)
17 Qh5 Qf4
seems to leave Black in good shape.
So my main line is
15 Rf6 gf
16 Qxf6 Qxf6
17 exf6 (Something passive)
18 Rg3+ Kh8
19 Rh4 (Something passive)
20 Rxh6+
17 ... Rg8 just saves White the trouble of Rg3. King flight is closed off by Bb5; for example: 17 ... R(f)d8
18 Rh4 Kf8
19 Bb5
and neither Rd7 nor Bd7 gives room to get away, and similarly: 17 ... R(f)c8
18 Rh4 Kf8
19 Bb5 a6
20 Rxh6 axb5
21 Rh8#
But if Black declines the original rook sacrifice, passive defense quickly gets stomped, and king flight is again too slow. That leaves two main tries against 15 Rf6, namely ... g6 and ... c4. 15 Rf6 g6
16 Bxg6 fxg6
17 Rxg6+ Kh7/h8
18 Qh5
is unhealthy for Black, provided White plays 19 Rxh6+ rather than Qxh6. And 15 Rf6 c4
16 Qh5 cxd3
17 Rg3
quickly mates as well. (The main point of that move order is to prevent Black from playing f6.) |
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| Jan-19-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Black's actual line is one of the ones I analyzed more lightly. Fine. I'm claiming success on this one anyway. :) |
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| Jan-19-14 | | patfoley: If black takes the f6 rook and plants his queen on d6, white sacs another rook at e6. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: <patfoley> The e6 sac line I looked at didn't quite work out. Basically, any time Black gets his pawn away from f7, defenses along the 7th rank start working altogether too well, |
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| Jan-19-14 | | michael104: 23. . .Ke8 24.Rxe6 Qxe6 25.Be5 Qe7 26.Rg8 |
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| Jan-19-14 | | czxcjx: What happens after 22... gxf6? |
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| Jan-19-14 | | Nick46: An anything but vulgar victory after Lalic got bogged down. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | morfishine: The old Rook F-Six Trick: <20.Rf6> (1) 20...gxf6 21.exf6 Qd6 22.Qh5 Rfd8 (or 22...Qf4 23.Rg3+ Qxg3 24.fxg3 Rfd8 25.Qxh6) 23.Qxh6 Qf8 24.Rg3+ (1b) 20...Qd7 21.Qg3 Rfd8 22.Rxh6 Kf8 23.Rh8+ Ke7 24.Qg5+ f6 25.Qxg7+ Bf7 26.Qxf6# *****
<An Englishman> I'd have to agree this puzzle is not quite "Insane" for a Sunday POTD. IMO, 15...Rd8 is no worse than what occurred in the game. But it appears White still lift the rook via 16.Rb5 with a solid positional advantage: 16...Bf8 17.Rxd5 or 16...b6 17.c4 Bb7 18.cxd5; or 16.Rb5 b6 *****
17.Be3 Bf8 18.Rxd5 Bb7 19.c4 |
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| Jan-19-14 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: <czxchx>
If 22 ... gxf6
then the main line is
23 Qxh6+ Ke8
24 ef Qc7/b7/whatever
25 Bb5+ Rd7/Bd7
26 Qh8# |
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| Jan-19-14 | | newzild: I found this to be easy for a Sunday. 20. Rf6! jumped out at me immediately, as the position reminded me of this: Fischer vs Benko, 1963 |
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| Jan-19-14 | | newzild: <morphishine> In the note to your first line, after 20. Rf6 gxf6 21. exf6 Qd6 22. Qh5 Qf4 23. Rg3+, it appears to me that 23...Qxg3 is not forced. Black can try 23...Kh8, when I cannot see a clear win for White. For example, 24. Rg7 Qc1+ 25. Bf1 (otherwise Black has a perpetual) Rg8 and White has nothing. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | newzild: ...therefore, in my opinion, the correct move order is 20. Rf6 gf 21. Qf4!! |
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| Jan-19-14 | | Balmo: The great Gashimov. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | agb2002: The material is identical.
Black threatens 20... Rae8 and 21... f6 (20... f6 loses to 21.exf6 Rxf6 22.Rxf6 Qxf6 23.Qxf6 gxf6 24.Rxe6) and 20... c4 to divert or eliminate the dangerous bishop. The move ... f6 suggests 20.Rf6 with the threat Qh5 and Rg3: A) 20... gxf6 21.exf6 Qd7 (21... Qd6 22.Qg3+ and mate in two) 22.Qf4 Qd8 (22... Rfb8 23.Qxh6 and 24.Qg7#) 23.Qxh6 Qxf6 24.Rg3+ Qg6 25.Rxg6+ fxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh7#. B) 20... g6 21.Bxg6 fxg6 22.Rxg6+ Qg7 (22... Kh7 23.Qh5 Qg7 24.Reg3 + -; 22... Kh8 23.Rxh6+ Kg7 24.Qh5 + -) 23.Rxg7+ Kxg7 24.Qh5 Rf5 25.Rg3+ Rg5 26.Rxg5+ hxg5 27.Qxg5+ + - [Q+3P vs R+B]. C) 20... c4 21.Qh5
C.1) 21... cxd3 22.Rg3
C.1.a) 22... d2 (or 22... dxc2 or 22... Kh7) 23.Rxg7+ Kxg7 (23... Kh8 24.Qxh6#) 24.Qxh6+ Kg8 25.Qg5+ Kh7(8) 26.Rh6#. C.1.b) 22... g5 23.Rxg5+ hxg5 24.Qxg5+ Kh7(8) 25.Rh6#. C.1.c) 22... g6 23.Rfxg6+ fxg6 24.Rxg6+ Qg7 (24... Kf7 25.Rxh6+ and mate in two; 24... Kh7 25.Qxh7#; 24... Kh8 25.Rxh6+ and mate in two) 25.Qxh6 Rf7 (25... Qxg6+ 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+ Kg8 28.Qxe6+ and 29.cxd3 + - [Q+4P vs 2R]) 26.Rxg7+ Rxg7 (27... Kf8 28.Rxf7+ Kxf7 29.Qf6+ Ke(g)8 30.Qxe6+ and 31.cxd3 + - [Q+4P vs R]) 27.Qxe6+ and 29.cxd3 + - [Q+4P vs 2R]. C.1.d) 22... Bf5 23.Rxh6 and mate soon.
C.1.e) 22... Qxf6 23.exf6 Rfb8 (23... dxc2 24.Rxg7+ Kh8 25.Qxh6#) 24.Qxh6 and mate next. C.2) 21... gxf6 22.Rg3+ and mate in two.
C.3) 21... g6 22.Bxg6 is similar to B. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | agb2002: Gashimov's week? |
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| Jan-19-14 | | morfishine: <newzild> Absolutely, but I always put what I tried and almost always on Sat and or Sun miss the best defence (though I may get the first move correct) Here, I didn't consider that Black would play an immediate 20...Rfd8 Thanks for looking
***** |
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| Jan-19-14 | | mel gibson: This was labelled insane but
I saw it straight away. |
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| Jan-19-14 | | MarkFinan: A fine British player Bogdan lalic, in his time! I've spoken to his son, Peter on here a few times and he's also a strong player. He makes chess videos that people can understand, never goes off track or mis counts pawns etc etc. Also good to see one of Gashimovs games made the hit parade 😄 |
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