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Nenad Fercec vs Bojan Medak
Metalis Open (2000), Bizovac CRO, rd 2
Pirc Defense: General (B07)  ·  1-0

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Sep-08-09  johnlspouge: < <Patriot> wrote: <johnlspouge> Once I saw how crushing 18.Qxe5 is, I don't think I would spend much time looking for anything better unless it's immediately apparent. >

The original post queried why one would even think of a tactical candidate in the first place. We agree that "checks, captures, and threats" is a good maxim, but my point is that the tactical analysis of K mobility leads one to expect that something violent will work.

<Out of curiousity, as black would you have discarded 17...Qxa4 as a candidate because you see that it loses to 18.Qxe5 and decide on something like 17...f5?>

I frequently miss best defenses, so I refuse to speculate how badly I would have played the Black pieces... I will say, however, that the sight of all the White pieces controlling my K's flight squares would certainly have made me nervous.

Sep-08-09  zooter: 18.Qxe5 breaks through black's defences...

Now, black has a choice between 18...Be6/Be7 leading to 19.Qxh8 winning or

18...dxe5 19.Rd8+ Ke7 20. Bc5#

A pretty finish and a good puzzle to come back to after a good long weekened with Monday and Tuesday off :)

Sep-08-09  TheChessGuy: Looking at the position, the queen sacrifice was like a reflex action. White's rook and bishop pair are just too strong for Black to defend against.
Sep-08-09  lost in space: I love Mondays!

:-)

Sep-08-09  jsheedy: 28. Qxe5+ wins at least a rook. Black can't recapture the queen, e.g., 28...dxe5, 29. Rd8+, Ke7, Bc5#. But after 28... Be7, 29. Qxh8+, Bf8, 30. Qe5+, Be7, white is a rook ahead. Also, if 28...Be6, 29. Qxh8, Qa6+, 30. Qb2, black has nothing.
Sep-08-09  jsheedy: OK, it's only move 18, not 28. But I was basically right.
Sep-08-09
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  playground player: This being Tuesday, not Monday, I don't know why I looked for a Queen sac first. But I did, and there it was--Qxe5+, blowing the defense wide open for a Rook and two Bishops.

I think these puzzles train us to look for sacrifices, which is probably a good thing. It seems the answer very seldom involves a quiet or developing move.

I dunno about anybody else, but for me the hardest part of chess is actually GETTING to one of these positions where a decisive move finishes off my opponent.

Sep-08-09  Once: <al wazir: <Once>: "Jim"?>

Apologies - was meant to be a reference to "Bones" McCoy of Star Trek (original series) fame. Or was it Spock? Or maybe both. Whichever it was, they would turn to Kirk and pronounce - "It's life, Jim, but not as we know it."

When in fact, what "it" usually looked like was a multi-coloured blob on the view screen or a stuntman in a rubber suit...

Sep-08-09  A Karpov Fan: another queen sac? I need variation...
Sep-08-09  Once: <stacase: Puzzles and Queen sacrifices. This one fell apart after a short search. Over the board? Not a chance!>

Fritz has this lovely little feature. In one of its training modes, it flashes a little red light when a tactic is possible. That makes you slow down, treat the position like a chessgames puzzle and really look for those dazzling queen sacrifices.

Wouldn't it be great to have something like that for OTB play? As it happens, I think we can build our own version of Fritz's red light. Whenever a position starts to look "juicy", we ought to think - "hey, this looks like a chessgames.com puzzle! I wonder if there is a brilliant tactic here?"

What makes a position juicy? Try these:

1. A vulnerable enemy king, especially one that is either stalemated or stuck in the centre of the board.

2. My pieces are strong - eg doubled rooks on an open file or adjacent bishops.

3. The opponent's position looks artificial - behind on development, too many weakening pawn moves, a lack of mobility.

4. I can spot part of a mating or piece winning tactic, but it's not quite there.

If you get any of those situations in a game, it's probably a good time to pause and look for puzzle-like tactics. Your very own in-built little red light!

Sep-08-09  Patriot: <johnlspouge> Very true. My coach calls it (lack of king mobility for example) a "seed of tactical destruction". Whenever a seed exists then there may be a tactic.

My main point goes back to <stacase>'s comment that he wouldn't have seen 18.Qxe5+ OTB. It's amazing that a simple change in thinking (like looking at checks, captures, and threats) can help to spot such tactical shots. It's true also from a defense standpoint. Black should have dismissed his candidate (17...Qxa4) as being unsafe due to the coming combination. 17...Qe7 is bad also because of 18.Qc6+, now losing the rook on a8. The fact the black queen is hanging leads me to think 17...f5 may have been best under the circumstances. For example, 18.gxf6 e.p. Qxa4 and now 19.Qxe5+ dxe5 20.Rd8+ Kf7.

Sep-08-09  johnlspouge: < <Once> wrote: [snip] When in fact, what "it" usually looked like was a multi-coloured blob on the view screen or a stuntman in a rubber suit... >

The stuntman, in deference to his memorable performances, should be named: Janos Prohaska. He played everything, from a blobby Horta to a hairy Mugato... [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janos_... ].

Sep-08-09  johnlspouge: < <lost in space>: I love Mondays! >

Nice to see, <lost in space>. At least my humor is not <lost on you>. (See posts below: Danger, danger, Will Robinson :)

Sep-08-09  BOSTER: Black king without castling in the middle of the board. Most black forces are scattered. The same time white advanced pawn c7 and g5 with bishop help on h3 create mating net. There is no surprise that white can find here
18.Qxe5 if 18...dxe5
19.Rd8+ Ke7
20.Bc5#
if 18...Be7
19.Qxh8 Bf8
20.Qe5 Be7
21.Bc5 and White win.
Sep-08-09  Once: <playground player: I think these puzzles train us to look for sacrifices, which is probably a good thing. It seems the answer very seldom involves a quiet or developing move.

I dunno about anybody else, but for me the hardest part of chess is actually GETTING to one of these positions where a decisive move finishes off my opponent.>

That's where those quiet developing moves come in!

A combination arises when we have some form of positional superiority - ie better posted pieces. In today's puzzle, white had the deadly pawn on c7. the rook controlling the d file, both bishops on tasty diagonals and a stalemated enemy king. We need to accumulate those sorts of advantages in our games and then combinations will appear as if by magic.

I reckon the process goes something like this:

1. understand the positional features of a position that give you an edge - eg control of open files/ diagonals, king safety, weak enemy pieces, outposts, etc.

2. Try to get those into your position (and deny them to the other guy). You won't know what you are going to use that open file or outpost for, but that doesn't matter just yet. If you can, put increasing pressure on the opponent, so that he has to misplace his pieces to defend.

3. Recognise when the pressure you have built up makes the position so juicy that a combination is likely.

4. Switch to puzzle mode to look for those flashy moves that just scream out Monday or Tuesday on CG.com.

I recall group kibitzing OTB with an English IM (Andrew Ledger). We examined one sideline and Andrew said: "This can't be right. I must have a combination here." The point was that he didn't know what the combination was yet, but he could see that all the preconditions were there. In other words, the position had got juicy. And sure enough his instincts were right - there was a tactic to bust that sideline.

Sep-08-09
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  Domdaniel: Got it, of course. But the light square weaknesses are so glaring that it took me a few seconds to see that the key breakthrough was on a dark square, e5.

Come to think of it, the weaknesses *everywhere* are glaring.

Sep-08-09  Patriot: <Once> Great points!
Sep-08-09  YouRang: It took me a minute, but I did finally realize that eliminating that pawn on d6 would be deadly for black (opening the d-file for the rook and the a3-f8 diagonal for the bishop).

After that revelation, 18.Qxe5+! forcing 18...dxe5 was easy to see.

Sep-08-09  TheBish: N Fercec vs B Medak, 2000

White to play (18.?) "Easy"

If it's Tuesday, it's time for a queen sac!

18. Qxe5+!

Not a true sacrifice, but a combination or "shot", because Black gets mated after 18...dxe5 19. Rd8+ Ke7 20. Bc5#. Also losing is 18...Be6 (or Be7) 19. Qxh8, so it's time for Black to resign.

Sep-08-09  cracknik: Very easy. Even for a Tuesday.
Sep-08-09  wals: [Event "Metalis Open"]
[Site "Bizovac CRO"]
[Date "2000.??.??"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Nenad Fercec"]
[Black "Bojan Medak"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B07"]
[WhiteElo "2464"]
[BlackElo "2253"]
[Annotator "Rybka 3 1-cpu (30m)"]
[PlyCount "39"]]

♗07: ♙irc Defence: Miscellaneous Systems

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f3
c6 5. Be3 b5 6. Qd2 Nbd7 7. g4 Nb6 8. g5 Nh5 9. b3 e5 10. O-O-O Nd7 11. d5 b4 12. dxc6 bxc3 13. Qxc3 (13. cxd7+ Bxd7 14. Qxc3 Rc8 ) 13... Nb6 ? <dubious> (13... Nc5 14. Bxc5 Qc7 ) 14. c7 Qd7 (14... Qe7 is no salvation 15. Bxb6 Bd7 16. Be3 ) 15. a4 Nxa4 (15... Qe7 does not win a prize 16. Bxb6 Bd7 17. Be3 ) 16. bxa4 a6 17. Bh3 (17. Qc4 keeps an even firmer grip Ng7 18. Qd5 ) <+ 5.47> 17... Qxa4 ?? <blunder terrible, but what else could ♗lack do to save the game? (<+ 2.01> 17... f5 18. f4 Qxa4 19. fxe5 d5 20. Rxd5 Be6 ) 18. Qxe5+ dxe5 (18... Be6 hoping against hope 19. Qxh8 Bxh3 20. Nxh3 Rc8 ) 19. Rd8+ Ke7 20. Bc5# 1-0

The above may be of interest to those seeking help.

Sep-08-09  Free Thinker Boy: What about 20...Kf6?
Sep-08-09  vulcan20: I can't believe I missed a Tuesday! The Black pawn on e5 was too "far away" from the king for me to consider sacrificing the queen for it.
Sep-08-09  minasina: <Free Thinker Boy: What about 20...Kf6?>

It's illegal because of white pawn at g5.

Sep-08-09  alphee: It seems it was a long time since we had to deal with a Queen sac. This one was easy but we are still at the second day of the week.
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