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Sep-28-06
 | | Honza Cervenka: <48. Qxc4 would have definitely been Topalov's best attempt to bring the match back to life. White's pressure is huge, and can't be alleviated by means of 48...f4 because of 49. Re5.> I don't see any problem for black here. 48.Qxc4 f4 49.Re5 fxe3 50.Rxe6 Qf7 51.Rxe3 Qxc4 52.bxc4 Rxd4 53.Rxa7 Rxc4 54.Ree7 g5 gives white hardly any chance to win despite the fact that he can take a Pawn h6. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | Ezzy: <Honza Cervenka:> IM Andrey Deviatkin on Chesspro says "Maybe it's a draw still, but white will torture his opponent for many moves. So suddenly Topalov got the chance and didn't use it." Because part of Topalov's strategy is too tire Kramnik, I agree with Deviatkin that if Topalov had seen this variation, he probably would of gone for it. No possibilty of losing but with a chance of pressuring Kramnik. Yes, Kramnik in all probability would hold, but Topalov keeps Kramnik at the board for another hour or so, which seems to favour Topalov. At the moment Topalov needs any advantage, however small. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | azaris: <Evan's Gambit> Aaargh! |
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| Sep-28-06 | | arnaud1959: So far Topalov used the best strategy. Drawing constantly would keep Kramnik -who is weaker physically- fresh, giving him the the chance of making his novelties and putting his efforts in the last part of the match as he did against Leko (As did Karpov against Kasparov but failed to draw in the last game). But now Kramnik must make efforts in every game which could weaken his physical condition. In addition to this Topalov has not too much to lose. If Kramnik wins, he becomes the only champion but he will be bound to fide rules, which will create another cycle of world championship in 2-3 years with a final tournament. Topalov loves tournaments but Kramnik loves matches. So a very good chance for Topalov to take back his crown unless...... fide changes his rules once again, as usual according to the humor of its leaders! |
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| Sep-28-06 | | ongyj: Come to think of it, Kramnik has yet to lose a match for very long... How many has his streak been so far? And he didn't concede a single game against Kasparov with 2 wins(which really should have been 3, can't imagine him not winning game 4). Anyone betting that he won't concede a game against Topalov at all? |
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Sep-28-06
| | Honza Cervenka: <Ezzy><Kramnik in all probability would hold> I think that not only Kramnik would hold it but some lines seem to be pretty spectacular and tricky, for example 48.Qxc4 f4 49.Re5 fxe3 50.Rxe6 Qf7 51.Rxe3 Qxc4 52.bxc4 Rxd4 53.Rxa7 Rxc4 54.Ree7 g5 55.Rg7+ Kf8 56.Rh7 Kg8 57.Rxh6 g4 58.Rg6+ Kh8 59.fxg4 (59.Rxg4 Rxg4 60.fxg4 Rd4 61.g5 Rd5 62.g6 Rg5 draws easily.) 59...Rd2 (Threatening 60...Rxg2+! 61.Kxg2 Rxg4+! =) 60.Rh6+ Kg8 61.Rb6 Rf4 62.Rbb7 (or 62.g5 Rf7 63.Rxf7 Kxf7 64.Kh2 Rd5 65.g6+ Kg7 66.Kh3 Rc5 67.Kh4 Ra5 68.g4 Rc5 69.g5 Rc1 and white cannot progress further.) 62...Rff2 63.Kh1 Rd4 64.g5 (after 64.Rg7+ Kh8 65.g5 Rh4+ 66.Kg1 Ra2! 67.Rab7 Rh2! /this crazy position deserves diagram, see below/ 68.Kxh2 Rxg2+! mad Rook saves black: 69.Kh3 Rg3+ 70.Kh4 Rg4+ 71.Kh5 Rxg5+ 72.Kh6 Rg6+ etc.) 64...Rg4 65.Rb5 (65.Rg7+ Kh8 66.g6 Rh4+ 67.Kg1 Ra2 68.Rab7 Rh2 leads nowhere as well.) 65...Rg3 66.Rd5 (If Ra7 leaves the 7th rank, then black can take on g2, if 66.Rb8+, then 66...Rf8 67.Rbb7 Rf1+ 68.Kh2 Rxg5 or 67.Rxf8+ Kxf8 68.Ra5 Kg7 69.Kh2 Rb3 70.Ra6 Rb5 71.g6 Rb3 makes draw quite evident.) 66...Rg4 etc. I don't see any chance to progress for white. Position after black's move 67....Rh4-h2!
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| Sep-28-06 | | KnightLunatic: Holy crap! What is going on.....?!?!?
Did you read this? http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...Topalov threatens to abandon the match because of Kramnik's many visits on the bathroom! Obviously he is suspicious about Chess engine-assistance.... Is this for real? |
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| Sep-28-06 | | dehanne: Topalov's just acting pathetic, that's all. He should just shut it and keep on fighting at the board, not throw around unfounded accusations. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | kevin86: Crapper talk! Even Fischer didn't go that low!
However,in his early days-fact or fiction-he was caught reading chess books in the potty room. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | Ezzy: <Honza Cervenka:> Great position in the diagram. Both sides achieving the perfect placement for their rooks. Four rooks on the seventh. I wonder how common that is. <(Threatening 60...Rxg2+! 61.Kxg2 Rxg4+! =)> A nice threat with the stalemate theme! Perhaps Deviatkin was over reacting, and I think you are right. I can not see Kramnik feeling tortured in such endgames. Probably the boredom would have tortured them both! Still, some interesting stuff there. Thanks for that. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | Merlot: <Topalov threatens to abandon the match > It reminds me of Spassky's attempts to cancel his match with Fischer...of course he was loosing too. Topa's team is doing everything they can to break opponent's concentration; otherwise the way things are going Topi ends up without FIDE or classical chess championship title and out of the next championship cycle...this is chess inside and outside the board. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | Swapmeet: Why don't they just stick a porto-potty in the playing area and get this over with? |
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| Sep-28-06 | | setebos: Kramnik is suffering from polyuria due to extreme anxiety. I hope he keeps well hydrated by taking lots of fluids. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | nutepuicumine: however... the games goes on ! if Topalov will win the 5th game.. then everythning's changed ! |
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| Sep-28-06 | | CoryLetain: At first I thought the accusation was a joke, but over 50 times to the bathroom? Even if the game was twice as long and Kramnik had a medical problem, I would still think 50 times to the bathroom is kind of strange. It would also be very annoying to have your competition stand up and leave after every move. Even if Kramnik isn't cheating, they should apply rules for going to bathroom. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | markofthemushroom: Are they parting COMPLETELY with their mobile phones before the games? Shredder has a mobile phone version and has a feature that allows games to be played against shredder 10 and it also has an online chess opening database. |
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| Sep-28-06 | | savagerules: Check under the lid of the tank for
something, that's where they taped up
the gun in the Godfather movie. Maybe
they taped up a little computer.
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| Sep-29-06 | | nutepuicumine: lol lol.. do you really believe that kramnik needs to cheat to win ??? i don't think so... kramnik and topalov.. they are both very very strong players.. may be we can say they are the best. i can't believe that anyone of them needs a mobile phone.. to win a game...
let's be serious ! |
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Sep-29-06
| | Honza Cervenka: <CoryLetain: At first I thought the accusation was a joke, but over 50 times to the bathroom? Even if the game was twice as long and Kramnik had a medical problem, I would still think 50 times to the bathroom is kind of strange. It would also be very annoying to have your competition stand up and leave after every move. Even if Kramnik isn't cheating, they should apply rules for going to bathroom.> Firstly, it is not strange at all. I would say that vast majority of players is not sitting in their chair and waiting for opponent's move all the time during the game. And many of them stand up and go away after almost every move. I am usually going to the bathroom ten times or more during a game just to wash my hands, face and neck with a bit of cold water to keep myself fresh and/or simply to occupy myself with something during the time when my opponent is thinking. It helps to relax nerves as well as body during the game which can last some six hours. Secondly, to base any allegations of cheating on frequency of bathroom visits is just stupid. In fact, once or twice in critical position would be sufficient. There is absolutely no need to consult the comp for 50 (or 25 if Danailov counts every visit twice as he evidently did in his letter of complain) times during a game. |
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| Sep-29-06 | | babywizard: <ughaibu><Topalov winning tournaments is irrelevant to the question of the relative strength of Kramnik and Topalov, unless Topalov is winning those tournaments in which Kramnik also plays.> I think so far we can say from the games that Topalov is clearly a little stronger than Kramnik. |
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| Sep-29-06 | | babywizard: 32.f3 preventing the bishop sortie looks better, imo. |
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Sep-29-06
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Toiletgate? Give me a freaking break. We know FOR CERTAIN that Kram doesn't have Fritz taped behind the toilet like Michael Corleone's gun-- DID FRITZ TELL KRAM TO MOVE BISHOP TAKES QUEENED PAWN IN GAME TWO? For cripes sakes he's not cheating. Obviously. |
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Sep-29-06
 | | Open Defence: funny thing is that in the critical positions the computers were not giving us the best move.. it was only after running them for a fair bit of time that they correlated the moves played.. |
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| Sep-30-06 | | VinnyRoo2002: babywizard, are you living in a bizarro world? How can Topalov be the stronger player in this particular match and be down 2 points. From the games, Kramnik is certainly the better player since he has the most points. Losing winning positions is still a loss, and when the situations are reversed Kramnik is not turning winning games into losses. The facts speak for themselves. |
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| Sep-05-07 | | acirce: After 22..Ne4:
click for larger view<Here my opponent offered a draw, the second surprise in two moves! After the game he said the position was dead even, so he did not want to waste time, as he wanted to watch a Champions’ League soccer match. According to Bareev’s evaluation White has a pleasant advantage and this is also the opinion of all the computer engines I consulted. And now that we know that even Fritz 10, by no means the best computer program, is clearly better than Kramnik, I would say my opponent’s assessment of the position as a dead draw is quite wrong. And there is another ethical question: whether it is right to offer a draw with the black pieces when leading +2 in the score and in an inferior position. But I guess we should not look for moral values in people that do not have them.> -- Veselin Topalov
http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/bo... |
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