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Jul-21-10 | | kevin86: Reverse psychology. Yes,I fell for the coy move of 13 ♘xf7? seemingly picking off a pawn and missing ♔xf7 14 ♕b3+ ♕d5! 15 exd5 ♖e1+ and mate next move. The puzzle wants us to look "clever" but really wants to fool us into stupid. |
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Jul-21-10 | | Marmot PFL: Looks like a knight desparado, followed by the queen fork. |
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Jul-21-10 | | kevin86: Guys! White resigned,not black. Black interposes and white can't get his piece back. If he takes the queen,he is mated. |
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Jul-21-10 | | Once: It was only one word, but the way that she said it spoke volumes. I was 14 and I was hopelessly and utterly in love. The other boys in the class couldn't see it, but I knew that she was special. She was slim, raven-haired and green-eyed. But it was the way that she held herself that captivated you. She had an easy elegance. Where the other girls were sassy and brassy, she was a class above. Catherine Deneuve or Joanna Lumley to their Barbara Windsor or Raquel Welch. For the other girls, the height of sophistication was to drink Pernod and black, and to have most of their tattoos spelt correctly. For them, no skirt was too short, no blouse too tight and no cleavage too vertiginous. But she was elegant beyond words. It took me weeks to gather the courage to ask for a date. I can't remember how I asked, but I can certainly remember her reply. "No," she said, with a little hint of a soft laugh in her voice. And in that gentle half-laugh, she was saying "Not you, not with me, not ever." She was an uptown girl, but I was no Billy Joel. She was also saying that she was expecting me to ask her out, was wondering when I would get around to it, had noticed my feelings for her. But for her, everything was under control. Even in rejection she was classy, elegant, sophisticated. The pleasantness in her voice was a way of saying: "It's okay to ask - I'm used to it. And there's nothing wrong with having dreams above your station." Weeks later, I found out that she was secretly dating another boy in her class, whose father played golf with her father. And with a gallic shrug you can say "it figures". In today's puzzle, white's 13. Nxf7 is an impudent chat up-line. But black plays it cool. And with 14...Qd5, one little move achieves a great deal: 1. It protects the Bb5 from capture.
2. It seals off the diagonal to the black king.
3. It offers an exchange of queens, which white (now a whole piece down) cannot accept. 4. It threatens a back rank mate if white plays 15. exd5 5. It shows white that black had seen all this from way before Nxf7. It was all calculated, expected, under control. But most of all, black is making a statement about knowing your station in life. 14. Qd5 also says: "And that is what it means to be ELO 2532." And, yes, I was fooled too today. |
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Jul-21-10 | | Ferro: NUEVA!!!
13.Nxf7 Kxf7
14.Re3 |
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Jul-21-10 | | Ferro: OTRA:
13.Nxf7 Kxf7
14.e5 |
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Jul-21-10
 | | OBIT: OK, looking at this puzzle again the next day, I think it is flawed as a spoiler, mainly because White is in trouble regardless of what he does. IMO, a good spoiler should have moves which give White an equal position at worst. I don't subscribe to the idea that, in a bad position, the best move is the one that delays the loss the longest. I'm more of the opinion that, if I am going to lose anyway, make it a quick single thrust so that I can go out for a beer and a pizza and rest up for the next round. Secondly, as <dzechiel> has already pointed out, Black's move to get to the puzzle position had been 12...Re8, moving his rook off the protection of the f-pawn. Now, think about this for a moment... if a reasonably good player makes a move that seems to be walking into a shot, and certainly if he has just spent at least 5 minutes on the move, aren't you going to be a little suspicious and check the combination extra carefully? Oh, sure, if the Black player had been especially devious, he actually saw all this when he played 9...Nxd4. Then, when it was time to play 12...Re8, he spent only 30 seconds on the move, with most of the time spent apprehensively eyeing the knight, and then feigned trepidation as he slid the rook over. All things considered, though, I think this position catches more fish as a spoiler than it would OTB. That's my rationalization, and I'm stickin' to it. |
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Jul-21-10 | | VincentL: "Medium/Easy".
I am at the airport, and had just a couple of minutes to solve this. Straight into the trap I went.... |
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Jul-21-10 | | SufferingBruin: <Once> Welcome back, young man. |
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Jul-21-10 | | Nullifidian: <amaurobius><How are you supposed to spot 14...Qd5? Those of you who saw it - how and why did it occur to you?> I play through these positions with my pegged travel chess board. Like most others here, it was just a second before I spotted ♘xf7 followed by ♕b3+. When thinking about the only resource Black had to block the check and save the bishop, because moving the king was obviously winning for White, the only possibility was ♕d5. Obviously, that put the queen en prise, and I considered whether White could make ♙exd5 work. ♖xe1+ would be Black's response, but White had the knight on d2. So does that save White's game? No, because — irony of ironies — the very bishop White wants to capture is covering the f1 square, so 16. ♘f1▢ ♖xf1#. Thus, the sacrificial line is a bust. That began an unproductive hunt for what the 'right' move ought to be. It is a cute puzzle to see the tactical resources that Black uses to shut down this sacrificial attack, but I would have rather it started as "Black to move" at 14. |
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Jul-21-10 | | zatara: ..ouch!.. |
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Jul-21-10 | | Primoman: Got me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddA... |
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Jul-21-10 | | jussu: Lol. I fell in :) |
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Jul-21-10 | | cjgone: I fell for it. :D |
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Jul-21-10 | | lopium: Ahahah I also felt in the trap! |
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Jul-21-10 | | eric the Baptist: This yet another stupid puzzle. We're supposed to pick a clunker of a move that winds up losing?
CG needs to be consistent about these things. A player can make tons of different losing moves, so what's the point? This kind of thing only serves to cast doubt on subsequent puzzles. Am I supposed to find a winner of a loser?? Puzzles should always be the finding of one move that wins. |
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Jul-21-10 | | agb2002: <CHESSTTCAMPS: <agb2002: I need a coffee...>
Well, two cups wasn't enough for me! I missed the quick refutation of 13.Nxf7. A great spoiler to catch a number of us off guard!> Curiously, I noticed possible back rank problems (e.g. line A.1) but didn't pay enough attention. |
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Jul-21-10 | | WhiteRook48: i fell for 13 Nxf7 |
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Jul-21-10 | | Mace: Gah, Wednesday!?? I definitely took the bait.
So is there an attack for white? The best move I saw was f4, and that one is still iffy, opening up for a queen check. |
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Jul-21-10 | | jheiner: Just joining the ranks of the defeated. Nice trap today. |
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Jul-21-10 | | Patriot: <eric the Baptist>
It all depends on what you expect. If it's just to solve a puzzle then I understand your frustration. But if you use these puzzles as a means of finding errors in your own thought process to help improve OTB analysis (like myself), then you would actually want to see more spoilers like this to make sure you are on the right track. Because OTB, there is no guarantee that there is a win so you're left to think it thru properly to make sure it is not a blunder. |
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Jul-21-10 | | wals: Nailed the first move of this little
teaser and the second and the third but completely missed the fourth.13.Nxf7 was a blunder, -2.36.
Alternatives were:- (none really flash)
Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu:
1. (-1.21): 13.Ng4 Bc6 14.Nxf6+ Qxf6 15.Qc2 Qd4 16.a4 Rad8 17.h3 2. (-1.28): 13.a4 Rxe5 14.axb5 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Qxd1 16.Rxd1 Rxe4 17.h3 h5 18.g3 Rb4 19.Rd5 Bxb2 20.Bxb2 Rxb2 21.Rc5 a5 22.bxa6 Rxa6 23.Rxa6 bxa6 24.Kg2 Rb7 3. (-1.36): 13.f4 Qd4+ 14.Kh1[] Rad8 15.Qf3 Nh5 16.Nb3 Qb4 17.Be3 b6 18.Rac1 f6 19.Ng4 Qxe4 20.Qxe4 Rxe4 21.Nf2 Ra4 22.Rxc7 Bf8 23.f5 4. (-1.48): 13.Nef3 Nxe4 14.Nxe4[] Qxd1[] 15.Rxd1 Rxe4 16.Rb1 Rae8 17.Be3 b6 18.b3 c5 19.Rd6 R4e6 20.Rbd1 h6 5. (-1.94): 13.Ndf3 Qxd1 14.Rxd1[] Nxe4 15.a4 Ba6 16.Ng4 Rad8 17.Bf4 Bxb2 18.Bxc7 Bxa1 19.Rxd8 Rxd8 20.Bxd8 Be2 21.Bc7 f5 |
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Jul-21-10 | | chessgolfer: Certainly one to keep you honest. I saw Nxf7 right off and also saw that it would lead me down the rabbit hole so I discarded it. Does that mean I solved the puzzle?? :=> The conclusion I came to was that I would not want to be White in this game. |
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Jul-21-10 | | amaurobius: <CHESSTTCAMPS> <Nullifidian> Thanks for picking up on my question and for your replies to it. |
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Jul-21-10 | | ajile: lol
This puzzle was hilarious.
14..Qd5!! |
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