| Jul-21-05 | | sharkbenjamin: Not the best game |
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| Jul-21-05 | | sharkbenjamin: d5 was a killer |
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| Jul-21-05 | | sharkbenjamin: After seeing this game I believe the Lenigrad variation of the Dutch is easy to beat. |
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| Jul-21-05 | | ConspTheory06: What does this have to do with the dutch at all?? This is a Birds Opening... |
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Jul-21-05
 | | Sneaky: Dutch opening, Bird's opening, what's the difference? If Shabalov can whup the Bird's opening as Black, whupping the Dutch Defense with White should be that much easier. |
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Jul-21-05
 | | Eric Schiller: White's light-square bishop was clueless! Looked drunk out there, until it was removed. |
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| Jul-21-05 | | DanRoss53: Speaking of looking drunk, check out the picture for Alexey Shirov! Also, check out Shirov's defeat in the Canadian Open: Shirov vs M Bluvshtein, 2005 |
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Jul-21-05
 | | IMlday: 8.d4 instead of 8.Qe1?! looks logical. White can develop the Queenside with Na3, c4, Rc1 etc |
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| Jul-21-05 | | Anatooly Homedepotov: This game sure shows that getting one of those so-called "Octopus Knights" (2. Nd6)doesn't mean you can "go to sleep and your game will play itself!" |
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Jul-21-05
 | | TheAlchemist: <ConspTheory06> The Bird's opening when Black responds with 1...d5 is the equivalent of the Dutch opening, with one move in hand. But this wasn't the Leningrad variation, <sharkbenjamin>, which is characterized by fianchettoing the King's Bishop on g7 (g2), but more the classical variation, which develops the Bishop on e7 (e2). But that's just names, the important thing is that you know how to play it, not to name it. I just wanted to clear that out, nothing more. <sharkbenjamin>, good luck in your Dutch battles! |
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| Jul-21-05 | | DanRoss53: The mating line is: 40. ♔h4 ♕h2+ 41. ♘h3 ♕xh3+ 42. ♔g5 ♗f6+ 43. ♔h6 ♖xg6+ 44. ♔h7 ♕xg4 45. ♘xf6 ♖xf6 46. h6 ♕g6+ 47. ♔h8 ♖f8# |
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| Jul-21-05 | | OneBadDog: Looks like in this game, Shirov made sweet potato pie out of his opponent. |
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| Jul-21-05 | | OneBadDog: When one gives his opponent the Bird, it's usually a sign of frustration. |
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| Jul-21-05 | | PinkPanther: <Sneaky>
Shabalov? |
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| Jul-21-05 | | kevin86: Clearly after Kh4 Qh2 mates! White overextended himself and was given his lumps. |
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| Jul-21-05 | | MarkN: I think its incredible how white's dark squared bishop was shut down by the black pawns, especially after 14...Nxd3 |
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Jul-21-05
| | IMlday: <MarkN> Yes, that's why 8.d4 or even 8.c3 were better moves. Losing control of the d4-square almost decides the game by itself. Playing Nf3, e3 and Bb2 and then giving up control of d4 is a 'crime' of inconsistency. |
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| Jul-21-05 | | ajile: The move 2.B3 is committing to this setup too early IMO. Better would be 2.NF3 which gives White move transpositional possibilities than the text. After 2.B3 Black can play for D5-D4 where D4 by White is awkward. In this game White did need to play a stonewall setup but with the QB going to B2 this is an awkward and inflexible setup that allows easy equality by Black. I also thought that e3 was bad and wasted a tempo. Against Black's setup after the first few moves I would think D3 followed by an attempt to play an early E4 would test Black more. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | suenteus po 147: Ugh, what a terrible Bird's Opening game. 8.Qe1 is just awful. You don't plan a kingside attack against Shirov in an opening as tricky as Bird's on move eight! 8.d4 aiming for a Stonewall was the only way to go. I should now, I've played losses in the Bird's this humiliating. |
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| Mar-20-06 | | who: Soltis recommends 8.Ne5!
<8.Ne5
There is no urgency to making a decision about white's problem-piece, his Queen Knight. Black may make that decision easier by committing himself in some way, such as the positional lemon 8...d4?, which allows 9.Nxc6 bxc6 10.Na3! and 11.Nc4. Black's use of d5 as an outpost for his knight then does not compensate for the sloppy pawn structure. Similarly 8...Nxe5 9.fxe5 Nd7 enables white to play 10.d4, confident in the knowledge that his Queen Knight belongs on c3. Then black can reposition his Knight and strengthen the center with 10...Nb8 11.Bf3 Nc6 12.Nc3 e6. However, 13.Na4 exposes Black weaknesses on the Queen-side -- 13...cxd4 14.exd4 f6 15.exf6 Bxf6 16.Qd3 b6 17.Rae1 and White's advantage is growing palpable (Ljubojevic vs Tringov, 1972 -- 17...Bd7 18.c3 Rc8 19.Bc1 Bg5 20.Ba3 Be7 21.Bxe7 Nxe7 22.Nb2 and Nd1-f2)> he goes on to recommend 8...Bd7 9.Bf3 |
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| Mar-21-06 | | suenteus po 147: <who> Thanks for the analysis and suggestion from Soltis. Very good advice! |
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| Mar-21-06 | | who: <Sneaky - Dutch opening, Bird's opening, what's the difference? If Shabalov can whup the Bird's opening as Black, whupping the Dutch Defense with White should be that much easier.> Shabalov isn't involved. |
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| Jul-16-07 | | dabearsrock1010: Next time this one dude who always play birds opening tries it in the club i am going to destroy him (because shirov has taught me how to indirectly)!!!!! |
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