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| May-14-05 | | csmath: Quite a bit but that is my secret. Let me have it. ;-)) Lets say it is faster than a dual Xeon 3 GHz.
Many things depend on memory subsystem, cooling, positional move decisions, opening book, game options etc. If you want to play competetive computer chess you will need to spend quite a bit of money on a regular basis, I can tell you that. I do have cluster but I cannot use it with the current Shredder. Hydra is not available on retail, they are keeping the whole program secret, nobody knows how well it is apart from programmers. |
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| May-14-05 | | Orbitkind: Nice one adams !!
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| May-14-05 | | Orbitkind: Leko is not better than adams. Leko sucks. |
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| May-14-05 | | Hesam7: <Orbitkind> In Dortmund 2002 [qualifier to play Kramnik] Adams was eliminated in the group stage, he lost the mini match to Leko [1.5-.5] ultimately finishing 2.5/6. Adams has not beaten Leko since Linares 1999, losing three classical games since then so "Leko sucks" makes no sense. <iron maiden: It's a decent game, but I have a hard time believing it would have been so well-recieved if Kramnik was on the winning White side.> I have that feeling too, if Kramnik had won I van easily Imagine people saying "it was just a home made win" or "that coward can not play without preparing it at home" <I think that Adams today is way more serious than he used to be.> I guess everybody who beats Kramnik becomes <csmath>'s favorite player. |
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| May-14-05 | | Everett: Is Adams known to prepare that much? I thought his success was from being less tight compared to the other players, besides having copious natural chess skill (as they all do) |
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| May-14-05 | | Everett: Does Mickey claim home prep here? Don't see why it has to be... Don't need home prep to see a positional advantage at the board. |
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| May-14-05 | | Everett: This game should be considered outstanding for the following reasons. 1) Defeat of the WC
2) Material imbalance
3) Outcome is not clear for some time
4) Very accurately played by white |
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| May-14-05 | | acirce: <I have that feeling too, if Kramnik had won I van easily Imagine people saying "it was just a home made win" or "that coward can not play without preparing it at home"> I don't recall hearing such words when Kramnik wins. Am I wrong? Some of the usual bashers here actually complimented him for the win against Pono. And yes, of course Leko is better than Adams.
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From the official site's report: <"Despite of 40 minutes thought the capture on d4 loses the game. A normal move was 18..Bg5 with equal position" – Kramnik"I don’t know the evaluation of 18..Bxd4" - Adams> |
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| May-14-05 | | Hesam7: From the official site:
<Adams-Kramnik: Miscalculation in a long tactical line1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.O-O Be7 8.c4 Nb4 9.Be2 O-O 10.Nc3 Bf5 11.a3 Nxc3 12.bxc3 Nc6 13.Re1 Re8 14.cxd5 Qxd5 15.Bf4 Rac8 16.Bg3 TN (16.Nd2 Na5 17.Bf3 Qd7 18.Nf1 Bd6 Adams, M 2741 – Kramnik, V 2754, ½-½, 2005, Wijk aan Zee, NED; 16.Bd3 Qd7 17.Rb1 Bxd3 Anand, V 2786 – Shirov, A 2713, 1-0, 2005, Monte Carlo, MNO; Kasparov, G 2804 – Anand, V 2786, ½-½, 2005, Linares, ESP) 16..Bf6 17.Nd2 (17.Qa4) Qa5 18.Qc1
(“Black should sacrifice on d4 and Kramnik becomes leader in the tournament!” – Seirawan; “Despite of 40 minutes thought the capture on d4 loses the game. A normal move was 18..Bg5 with equal position” – Kramnik; "I don’t know the evaluation of 18..Bxd4" - Adams) 18..Bxd4!?
(Probably leads to equality as well)
19.cxd4 Nxd4 20.Bc4 Nc2 (20..Rxe1 21.Qxe1 Nc2 22.Qe7 Nxe1 23.Bxf7 Kh8 24.Be5 Qxd2 25.Bxg7) 21.Rxe8+ Rxe8 22.Rb1 Re1+ 23.Qxe1 Nxe1 24.Rxe1 Kf8 25.Nf3 f6 (25..b5!?) 26.Rd1 Qc5?! (26..Qa4!? 27.Be2 c5) 27.Bf1 Ke8 28.Nd4 Bd7 29.Rd3 a5 30.h3 b5 31.Nb3 Qxa3 32.Bxc7 a4 33.Bd6 Qb2 34.Nc5 a3 (34..Bc8) 35.Re3+ Kf7 36.Nd3 Qb1 37.Bxa3 Be6 38.Nf4 b4 39.Bxb4 Qxb4 40.Nxe6 g6 41.g3 1-0> |
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| May-14-05 | | Hesam7: <acirce> It is not so hard to find such posts [sorry I did not meant that those posts occur exactly after Kramnik's wins] I do not think it deserves to be sorted out and posted. <Some of the usual bashers here actually complimented him for the win against Pono.> That is right, I hope the positive feeling continues. Beside that Kramnik's press release - in which he committed to play the the winner of San Luis - also generated a positive feeling among kibitzers. |
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| May-14-05 | | halcyonteam: The backrank mate is headache for kramik |
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| May-14-05 | | Everett: <Leko> If you are not Leko, do not pretend to be him. If you are, you embarrass yourself terribly.
My sense is that Peter Leko would never sound as ignorant and ill-willed as you do. |
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| May-14-05 | | Milo: Push the passed pawns, not lose the passed pawns :)... seriously though, black already looks cooked to me. |
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| May-14-05 | | Minor Piece Activity: It always annoys me when the player who plays more artistically (in this case, Kramnik I opine) loses. Was a3 the losing error, or was it already hopeless before that? A good creative effort on Kramnik's part in either case. |
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| May-14-05 | | Hesam7: <MPA> according to chessbase.com 34..a3 was the losing error. |
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| May-14-05 | | dac1990: Here is as, as promised, the analysis of Fritz.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 d5 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.0–0 Be7 8.c4 Nb4 9.Be2 0–0 10.Nc3 Bf5 11.a3 Nxc3 12.bxc3 Nc6 13.Re1 Re8 14.cxd5 Qxd5 15.Bf4 Rac8 <last book move> 16.Bg3 Bf6 <16...Bd6 17.Qa4 Bd7 18.Qc2=> 17.Nd2 Qa5 18.Qc1 Bxd4 19.cxd4 Nxd4 20.Bc4 Nc2 <Exerts pressure on the isolated pawn> 21.Rxe8+ Rxe8 22.Rb1 Re1+ 23.Qxe1 Nxe1 24.Rxe1 Kf8 <24...g6 25.Re8+ Kg7 26.Be5+ Kh6 27.Bf4+ g5 28.Be3 Qxa3 29.h4 <29.Bxf7? is a blank shot 29...Qa1+ 30.Nf1 Bd3–+> 29...Qa1+ 30.Kh2  > 25.Nf3 <25.Re5 Qxa3 26.Rxf5 Qc1+ 27.Bf1 Qxd2  > 25...f6 <Covers e5>
26.Rd1 Qc5 <26...Qa4 27.Be2 c5 28.Bd6+ Kf7 29.Re1  <29.Bxc5? doesn't work 29...Qc2–+>> 27.Bf1 <27.Be2 Ke8>
27...Ke8 <27...Qxa3!? is interesting 28.Bxc7 Qa4 29.Bd6+ Kg8=> 28.Nd4 Bd7 29.Rd3 a5 <29...a6 30.Bf4 > 30.h3 Secures g4 <30.Ne2 Qb6±> 30...b5 31.Nb3 <31.Bf4!? > 31...Qxa3= 32.Bxc7 a4 <Black gains space> 33.Bd6 Qb2 34.Nc5 a3?! <much better was 34...Bc8= and Black can hope to live> 35.Re3+ Kf7 36.Nd3 Qb1 37.Bxa3 <37.Re7+ Kg6 38.Bxa3 > 37...Be6? <much better was 37...Bf5 38.Re7+ Kg8±> 38.Nf4 b4 39.Bxb4! <the death sentence> 39...Qxb4 40.Nxe6 g6 41.g3 <41.g3 g5 42.Be2 > 1–0 There. Just making the inexplicable plicable. |
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| May-15-05 | | cheski: < WMD: Something I've noticed is that Kasparov has gone out of his way on a number of occasions to compliment Mickey's play. It's a real pity Mickey missed that ...Qc6 move vs Kasim, because otherwise Kasparov would still be playing and we'd have a WC match in London to look forward to. > Hear, hear! I've been sad about that since last summer. I have always liked Adams' play so much better than Short's. I hope Adams will finally come into his own and win a major. Although being number six in the world is not exactly a bad achievement. |
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| May-15-05 | | Orbitkind: Of all the chess lovers, not many will reach a level of mastery that Adams has reached. He is one of the best players in history. I saw a biographical book of his showing a picture of him at about age 10 or 11 giving a simlul against about a 20 man chess club, (and scoring about +18 =2). Not many people could even reach that standard in their lifetime. |
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| May-15-05 | | csmath: Keep in mind that Adams has a very good score against most of elite players today, that includes positive scores against Leko, Kramnik, and Topalov. Only two exceptions - Kasparov and Anand. In fact Adams is a measure of quality for whomever plays him. |
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| May-15-05 | | Philidor: I rejoiced when Shirov beat Leko this year in the Amber, and I shout for joy now, when Mickey beat Kramnik. Why? Well, I would like to see more wins, tactics, bravery, sacrifices, ingenuity (and ingenuousness!) at the board. Players like Kramnik and Leko are dead tissue in the heart of chess. |
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| May-15-05 | | hintza: <Philidor> So tell us, were you happy to see Kramnik's ...Bxd4 *sacrifice* lose yesterday? |
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| May-16-05 | | Philidor: <hintza> Yes, I was -- not because he lost the game, but that he DARED to lose. Maybe I was a little unjust to Kramnik and Leko, but the fact is that I find their play and attitude towards the game too drawish, thus mostly not very exciting. That's my personal view, of course. The spirit of chess is slowly dying, due to strangulation of computer-aided analyzation and theoretical knowledge. According to Fischer, chess is already dead. He was probably hoping that his random chess would bring some new life into the corpse, but I'm afraid the "death" is irreversible. In some respect chess is still alive and kicking only in the game of the weaker player (such as myself). Well, perhaps I'm being ignorant... but, hey, sometimes ignorance IS bliss! |
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| May-28-05 | | patzer2: Kramnik makes a defensive error in a difficult position with 20...Nc2?!, entering a middle game with Black having three pieces for the Queen and a big advantage after 21. Rxe8+! Necessary, but perhaps hard even for a GM to see OTB, was 20... Rxe1+!? 21. Qxe1 Nc2 22. Qe7 Nxa1 23. Bxf7+ Kh8 24. Nf1 Nc2 25. Be5 Qxa3 26. Qf6 Qf8 27. Qxf5 Re8 28. Bxc7 Re7 29. Qxc2 Rxf7 with drawing chances in a difficult endgame. |
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| May-28-05 | | hintza: <patzer2> <Necessary, but perhaps difficult to see OTB, was 20... Rxe1+!? 21. Qxe1 Nc2 22. Qe7 Nxa1 23. Bxf7+ Kh8 24. Nf1 Nc2 25. Be5 Qxa3 26. Qf6 Qf8 27. Qxf5 Re8 28. Bxc7 Re7 29. Qxc2 Rxf7 with drawing chances.> What about 24.Be5 Qxd2 25.Bxg7+ Kxg7 26.Be8+ Kh6 27.Qf8+ Kg5 28.f4+! which looks very good for White? |
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| May-28-05 | | patzer2: Anand displayed the anecdote for 16. Bg3 with a nice win using 16...Bd6! in Adams vs Anand, 2005. |
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