I believe that the submitter of this game incorrectly assumed the game was a consultation, as <ChessGames.com> is the only source I know that has it listed as such (I have 3 other sources that indicate it is not a consultation game - Shibut, Maroczy and the CA-8 DB). I could well be wrong but I make no sense of (& Fde L'A) except that it would appear to me that the Fde represents "Fournier de" as Saint Amant's full name was (Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant) so I think the "&" is kind of dubious. As to the (L'A) I could not even begin to explain. Maroczy lists white as "P. Ch. F. de St-Amant" without his customary "und Genossen" when the other consultants are not known. Can anyone venture a guess as to who or what "Fde L'A" might represent?

Edge while not listing games scores mentions results for 16 consultation games that were played in France.

Morphy (2 wins) [Saint Amant & Lequesne] (0 wins) (2 Draws) indicating four games played. Aside from the blindfold simul Lequesne was always given Pawn and two. ( L'A would be a streach even here as Lequesne first name was Eugene )

Edge further indicates that Morphy played 12 other consultation games.

6 with the [Duke of Brunswick & Count Isouard & Count Casabianca] Morphy 5 wins 1 drawn.

5 with the [Duke of Brunswick & Count Isouard] Morphy winning all.

The remaining being a loss to (de Riviere and Paul Journoud).

So even within all his known consultation games while in France this "Fde L'A" refernece makes no sense.

<SBC> What has Sergeant to say about who was on white? Game Number# please, and wasn't Edge with Morphy till 1859 after the Anderssen match?

in Sergeant's Morphy's Games of Chess:

Game LXXX
Paris, Nov. 1858
Giuoco Piano
White: St. Amant and F. de l'A
Black: Morphy

Sergeant avoids any explanation.
I don't know if Morphy Gleanings has anything to say in the matter.

According to Sergeant Morphy played following consultation games:

1 in USA ; 4 in England July 1858 ; 21 in Paris in 1858 (+16-1=4). Sergeant doesn't give all the games, if they are even extant.

It's my understanding that sometime during the Anderssen match is when the friction between Morphy and Edge came to a head. I don't think anyone's mentioned a specific date, but Edge seemed to disappear shortly after Anderssen left on January 2.

Note to whites 12th move for KP read QP
P. 150, footnote 1. 2, before 1800
insert "September 2"; last line
read died, October 1872
______________________________________

Regarding Whites 12th move seems to be Blacks 12th Nxd4 had the typo.

And that would kill (Fde L'A) also.

Is 'Bell's Life in London' a chess periodical or more like Martha Stewart Living?

In 1833 George Walker starts as editor of chess column in Bell's Life for 38 years.

Hey, that's the dude who found de Labourdonnais and his wife starving in poverty and put them up in an fresh pad only to have de Labourdonnais die three weeks later on 12/13/1840. He seems like a reliable source and I don't think Sergeant would be seeing things.

Ever hear of any player close to (M.F.de B) that's a lot of chess metric pages with only a B and M to go on.

This is a tough call.

So, I think it should be presented that way and the reason for the correction noted.

Edge agree on US and English Consultation counts.
Edge also lists the blind consultation at Versailles under blindfold games. So the difference between Edge and Sergeant may be only 4.

Still a bit. <SBC> shouldn't Edge have had a higher batting average re: France?

"Bell's Life in London," or more accurately, "Bell's Life in London and Sporting Chronicle," was a working man's newspaper in operation from 1822 to 1886.

It featured sports news, but also a variety of other subjects including Theater and Opera and fly-fishing. Charles Dickens and other authors had their serialized works published in Bell's Life (not to be confused with Bell's Weekly).

In 1835, George Walker started the first newspaper chess column in Bell's Life. He kept it until 1873.

Bell's life reported on a variety of sports such as football, rugby, boxing and billiards, but its mainstay was horse-racing.

In 1854, of the 24 daily newspapers in England, it was 10th in readership with 1,161,000 subscribers.

It underwent several name changes throughout its run, but "Bell's Life" was always in the title.

At the time, there was a companion newspaper in Australia named, "Bell's Life in Sydney"

<Of course the guy could be an Amateur or NN>

That's my thought - no one could even remember his name. Maybe he was St. Amant's visiting brother-in-law, or a client who wanted to meet Morphy. Most likely there was little consultation going on.

<Edge also lists the blind consultation at Versailles under blindfold games. So the difference between Edge and Sergeant may be only 4.>

May be. Sergeant doesn't get that precise.

<shouldn't Edge have had a higher batting average re: France?>

You would think so. Maybe Edge is closer than Sergeant. Who knows?

This certainly has been a productive day.

There you go...

and I was so sure the M. in "M.F.de B" stood for Monsieur.

Chessmetrics lists one player who might fit the "De B"

http://www.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Pla...

So while I am clowning around you are out comming up with "de Boistertre" and certainly that was no small feat, but I would have been in the B's.

I frequently check this link
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/cserica/s...

But Hugo came up here
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/cserica/s...

But a far cry from M.F. and even if we found a "Mario Francis de Boistertre" that played chess it is another step to claim it is him/her