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Apr-20-05
 | | kevin86: The problem's simplicity was only trumped by its rapidity. Or-it's simple,stupid;memo to me,caused i missed it. :( |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Ezzy: <alayo> 26..Rxf3? unfortunately doesn't win because 27.Rxf3 Re1+ 28.Rxe1 Qxe1+ <28...Bxd4+ 29.Kf1 and white wins.> 29.Kh2 and there's no win for black. <The Skink> was correct. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | riqhi: ouch... Nice problem. I dind't get it. Too simple ;-) |
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| Apr-20-05 | | white pawn: I also thought 26...Re2 |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Stonewaller2: After 26. ... ♖xf3?! 27. ♖xf3 ♗xd4+ 28. ♖xd4 ♖e1+ 29. ♖f1 ♕e3+ 30. ♔h2, how about 30. ... ♕e5+ -- ? 30. ♔g1 ♖xf1+ 31. ♔xf1 ♕xd4 or 30. ♖df4? ♖xf1. Of course not 30. g3? ♕e2+. And it's not nearly as quick as the text. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Ezzy: <white pawn> You are correct 26..Re2 is just as good, if not better 27.Nh4 Rc2 28.Nb1 Re3 29.Qc5 (29.Rf3 Rxa3 30.Rxg3 Rxg3 Winning easily) 29...Rxg2+ 30.Nxg2 Re2 and black mates! <Stonewaller> 26..Rxf3?? Read my last post. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Stonewaller2: <Ezzy> I did. 27. ... ♗xd4+ instead of your 27. ... ♖e1+, then White can't play ♔h2 because the Black ♕'s still on g3, and if 28. ♔f1 ♕h2. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | avidfan: <white pawn>
26...Re2 27.Nxd2 Rxd2 28.Ne1 Qxa3 and Black is ahead in material with a passed c4 pawn. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Stonewaller2: In the line I give below, 30. ♖ff4. hmm. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | aw1988: I got for a solution Rxf3 Rxf3 Re1 Rxe1 Qxe1 with Bxd4 to follow. I know if this is a win it takes much longer, but... am I right? |
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| Apr-20-05 | | awfulhangover: Holy s**t. I never thought about 26.-Rxc3 at all. A shame. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | isaac.gl: Wouldn't 26...Re3-e2 27.Nxe2, Re8xe2 work?
It's one more move and maybe not as sexy. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | The beginner: <aw1988>
26 .. Rxf3
27 Rxf3 ..Re1+
28 Rxe1 ..Qxe1+
29 Kh2 ..Bxd4 ??
30 Rg3+
And white is winning. Black has no good moves left, he has only 3 legal moves 30 ..Kh8
31 Qf8 mate.
30 ..Qxg3+
31 Kxg3 White won a queen, for a rook.
30 ..Bg7
31 Qd6 forking a mate threat Qd8 mate, and blacks knight on b6, so after black make a move to avoid mate, he loses his knight, and white has material, and positional advantage to win the end game. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | The beginner: <isaac.gl>
Your variation is good, as it wins white's queen
26 ..Re2
27 Nxe2 .. Rxe2
28 Ne1 white must move the his knight to eather h4, or e1 to avoid mate.
.. Qxa3 |
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| Apr-20-05 | | aw1988: <The beginner> How embarrasing (or, to be painfully honest, how fitting) to have a beginner correct my analysis! Thanks very much, but do you have an alternative to Bxd4? You must have, else double question mark would not be used. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Ezzy: <Stonewaller2> 30 Rff4 Even hmmmmmmmm :-) |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Halldor: My first and in fact only idea was that 26...RxN would remove one of the two white defenders of the first rank; Bxd4 later was also a hope after a second rook sacrifice. - <I use the training method of Alexander Koblenz: put up the position on a chessboard and write down the moves without moving the pieces (...if it is too difficult I move the pieces, but don't tell Koblenz...). I have also added a loud russian chess clock and a cup of strong coffee.> So I tried: 26... Rxf3 27. Rxf3 Re1+ 28. Rxe1 Qxe1+ 29. Rf1 Bxd4+ 30. Kh2 Qxf1 and White is helpless.
Then the question was if White could safe himself by 28. Rf1..., and now I had the feeling I hadn't found the right track... I didn't see 26...Rxc3! and if 27. Qxc3? then Re2 (28. Ne1 looses the queen). |
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| Apr-20-05 | | The beginner: <aw1988>
Well i dont know, i just made the ?? as it is a move which will lose for, sure. After 29 Kh2, Im not sure but i think white is better, you can proberly see it much more clear than me. I dont think there are any tactics to win material or force mate at the position. The best move for black is maybe Bf8 to stop the white queen from controling a3-f8 diagonal, and give Bd6 check after white moves his queen away. Maybe the position is draw, white has a rook, versus pawn, and bishop. 29 Kh2 ..Bf8
30 Qxa5 white wins a pawn, and threatens the knight on b6, but black now has some dangerous threats
.. Bd6+
31 g3 ..Qd2+
32 Kh1 ..Qxd4 winning the pawn back
White's queen is somewhat ankward placed here. He must find some way to bring it into play. On the other hand black dosent seem to have any forcing moves left, so maybe draw ? Also maybe better for white is
29 Kh2 ..Bf8
30 Qe2 White's queen is better positioned here, to prevent black from delivering checks with his queen on the second rank. White should be able to outplay black with his stronger material ? |
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| Apr-20-05 | | DWINS: <alayo> <ewenardus>, I also thought that 26...Rxf3 was the winning move, but unfortunately it doesn't work. <alayo>, in your line, as <ewenardus> pointed out, White should play 28.Rxe1 instead of 28.Rf1. After 28...Bxd4+ White wins with 29.Kf1 instead of <ewenardus's> Ree3. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | midknightblue: <cjhasbrouck> Hello CJ. consider me one of your online chess friends. I dont have AIM. However you can find me on FICS almost nightly (hawaii time) as well as on playchess.com, USchesslive and gameknot. Also may I brag that I am undefeated on plachess, USChesslive and gameknot (because I have only played about 4 games on each server)? Several hundred losses on FICS :(
Hope to see you online. My handle is the same everywhere except gameknot where it is midknightmadness. By the way, my favorite subject is chess books - anyone picked up any good ones lately? |
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Apr-20-05
 | | Richard Taylor: 26...Re2 does win even 25 Nh5 loses to Rg2+ 26 Ng2 Re2 winning as the c3 knight is pinned |
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Apr-20-05
| | Richard Taylor: I didnt think of Nc3 either -that's instruuctive - how one can start thinking 'down' one line - I did that once in OTB chess and then played my move - overlooking an easy alternative win that a kibitzer saw (the TD as it happened !) ...lol ..Chess Tunnel Vision - dangerous - inreased beacause one only has so much time |
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| Apr-23-05 | | patzer2: The deflection 26...Rxc3! sets up 27...Re2! to decisively exploit White's weakened castled position. |
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| Apr-23-05 | | patzer2: Other moves such as 26...Re2!, 26...Bf8!, 26...R8e6! and 26...h5! also win. However, 26...Rxc3! as in the game is for me the clearest and simplest winning line. |
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| Jan-14-08 | | notyetagm: <patzer2: The deflection 26...Rxc3! sets up 27...Re2! to decisively exploit White's weakened castled position.> Yes, to target the <LOOSE> g2-square next to the White g1-king. |
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