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Jan-21-05 | | Ragar: I very much doubt Vishy will feel "disrespected" that Pono played on. They are probably having a nice chin-wag now. |
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Jan-21-05
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Jan-21-05 | | patzer2: I found the game and the ending instructive, even if Pono did make Anand play out the win. |
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Jan-21-05 | | Franz the Stampede: yeah, I was talking about the thing in general and referring to Moro's game of yesterday, he was down 2 pieces and he kept playing for a little too long, IMO |
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Jan-21-05 | | AdrianP: An unusual and interesting opening from Vishy - 6. f3 is usually a prelude to the English Attack, avoiding the 6.Be3 Ng4 variations. 6. ...Qb6 is the only way to potentially exploit White's move order. But bringing the dark-squared bishop to f4 is highly unusual (no examples in this database), presumably because it slows down the kingside pawn storm (which is the main reason for the Be3 systems rather than the classical 6. Bg5). But there's certainly some logic to Bf4, immediately pressuring the pawn on d6. |
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Jan-21-05 | | patzer2: In addition to the possible game ending 62 ...Bb7 63. b5 Kc5 64. bxa6 , which <Sneaky> pointed out, I also like the possibilities after the best defense line 62...Bb7 63. b5 axb5 64. Bxb5 Na8 65.a6 .With this "best defense line" 62...Bb7 63. b5 axb5 64. Bxb5 Na8 65.a6, also suggested by <Sneaky>, Anand might have won with the pretty finish 65...Ba8 66. Ba4! Bc6 [66..Nh7 67. Be8 Nf8 68. Nh4 Nh7 69. Bxg6 Nxg5 70. Nf3 ] 67. Nxe5 Ba8 68. Nxg6 Nh7 69. e5+ Kc7 70. Nf4 Nxg5 71. Nxe6 Nxe6 72. h7 . |
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Jan-21-05 | | patzer2: Perhaps Black's passive 10...h3?! cost a vital tempo needed for defense. Fritz 8's more active suggestion 10...Nc5!? seems to hold with sufficient counterplay for Black. After 10...Nc5!? 11. 0-0-0 Nxb3 12. cxb3 0-0 , White holds only a slight advantage. Note that after the passive 22...Nf6?! Black is lost. However, even after the active alternative 22...Nxf4, Black also appears to be lost, as 23. Bxf4 exf4 24. Qxf4 Nd7 25. Rf1 Ne5 26. Nd5! Qd8 (26...Bxd5 Rxd5 ) 27. Nd4 Bd7 28. Rc3 looks decisive for White. |
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Jan-21-05 | | patzer2: Anand's strong positional deflection move 22. f4!, which provoked the losing 22...Nf6?!, appears to be decisive. The followup 25. Nc5! was another strong tactical and positional shot, yielding a won position against Black's weakened castled position. |
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Jan-21-05 | | patzer2: Even though the simple 34. hxg5 would have won, the pretty in between move 34. Rf7+! provides White an even bigger advantage. |
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Jan-21-05 | | apple head: <sneaky> It is hard for advanced players to figure this out, but I think its won |
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Jan-21-05 | | notyetagm: Beautiful endgame play by Anand takes home the full point. |
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Jan-21-05 | | OneArmedScissor: One hell of an end game. |
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Jan-21-05 | | euripides: At the end if 63...Bb7 the simplest may be 64 Ne3 Nxg5 65 Nc4+ Ke7 66 Nxe5 and the knight can cooperate with the bishop to attack h7 or a6. |
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Jan-21-05 | | dac1990: This needs two posts to cover. Enjoy the analysis!
B90: Sicilian Najdorf: Unusual White 6th moves, 6 Be3 Ng4 and 6 Be3 e5 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.f3 Qb6 7.Nb3 e6 last book move 8.Bf4 Nbd7 [8...Be7 9.Qe2 ] 9.g4 [9.Qd2 Be7 ] 9...Be7 10.Qe2 [10.Qd2 Ne5 11.Be2 Qc7=] 10...h6 Prevents intrusion on g5, unfortuneately, this happens anyway [10...Nc5 11.Qe3=] 11.h4 Qc7 12.0–0–0 b5 13.a3 [13.Qg2 Ne5=] 13...Rb8 [13...Ne5 14.Rg1=] 14.Qg2 White plans g5 14...Nc5 [14...Ne5=] 15.g5 White gains space [better was 15.Nxc5!? and White has air to breathe 15...Qxc5 16.Qg1 ] 15...Nh5 16.Be3 Na4 [16...Nxb3+!? should be considered 17.cxb3 b4 18.axb4 Rxb4 19.gxh6 gxh6=] 17.Rd3 [17.Na2 d5 ] 17...g6 [17...d5 18.gxh6 g6 19.Qd2 ] 18.Kb1 [18.Qh2 hxg5 19.hxg5 Bd7 ] 18...Bb7 [18...Nc5 19.Nxc5 dxc5 20.gxh6=] 19.Be2 [19.gxh6 Nc5 20.Nxc5 dxc5=] 19...e5 [19...d5 20.exd5 Qg3 21.Qf1 Nxc3+ 22.Rxc3 Bxd5 23.Rg1= (worse is 23.gxh6 b4 24.axb4 Bxb4 (24...Rxb4? 25.Rc8+ Kd7 26.Rxh8 ) ) ] 20.Qf2 Bc6 [20...Rc8 21.Bf1 (slightly worse is 21.gxh6 d5 ) ] 21.gxh6± Nb6 22.f4 Nf6 [slightly better is 22...b4!? 23.axb4 Nxf4 24.Bxf4 exf4 25.Qxf4 Nd7±] 23.fxe5 dxe5 [23...Nxe4 24.Nxe4 Bxe4 25.Rf1 ] 24.Rf1 0–0 [24...Rh7 25.h5 g5 26.Qf5 ] |
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Jan-21-05 | | dac1990: 25.Nc5 Bb7 26.Ne6 fxe6 27.Bxb6 Qc6 [27...Qc8 28.Qg3 Kh7 29.Qxe5 ] 28.Qg1 [28.Qg3 makes it even easier for White 28...Kh7 (28...Qxb6?? is refuted by mate in 2 29.Qxg6+ Kh8 30.Qg7#) 29.Qxe5 Rbc8 ] 28...Kh7 29.Rdf3 Qe8 30.Bc5 Bxc5 31.Qxc5 Nd7 32.Qe3 [32.Qd6 Rxf3 33.Rxf3 Bc8 ] 32...Qe7 [32...Rxf3 33.Rxf3 Qe7 34.Qg5 ] 33.Qg5 Qxg5 34.Rf7+ Rxf7 35.Rxf7+ [35.hxg5?? cheese in a trap 35...Rxf1+ 36.Bxf1 Rf8–+] 35...Kh8 36.hxg5 Bc6 [36...Nf8 37.Rf6 ] 37.b4 Nf8 38.Rf6 [38.Rc7 seems even better 38...Be8 ] 38...Kg8 39.Bg4 [39.Kb2 Be8 ] 39...Bd7 [39...Re8 40.Kc1 ] 40.Kb2 [40.Nd1 and White can already relax 40...Rb6 ] 40...Re8 [40...Rb6 41.Kb3 ] 41.Nd1 Re7 42.Nf2 Be8 [42...Bc6 43.Nd3 ] 43.Rf3 [43.Nd3!? might be the shorter path 43...Nh7 44.Nxe5 Nxf6 45.gxf6 Rh7 46.Bxe6+ Kf8 ] 43...Rf7 [43...Nh7 44.Nh3 Bc6 ] 44.Rxf7 Kxf7 45.Kc3 Nh7 46.Nh3 Bc6 47.Kd3 Ke7 48.Ke3 Kd6 49.Be2 Ke7 50.Bd3 Kd6 [50...Kf7 does not solve anything 51.c4 ] 51.Kf3 Ke7 52.Kg4 Nf8 53.Ng1 Nh7 [53...Kf7 cannot change what is in store for Black 54.c4 Ke7 55.Nf3 bxc4 56.Bxc4 ] 54.Nf3 Kd6 55.Kg3 Be8 56.Kf2 [56.Kh4 keeps an even firmer grip 56...Nf8 ] 56...Bc6 57.Ke3 Bd7 58.c4 bxc4 59.Bxc4 Bc8 [59...Bb5 doesn't get the cat off the tree 60.Kd3 ] 60.a4 Bb7 61.a5 Bc8 [61...Nf8 hardly improves anything 62.Bd3 ] 62.Bd3 [62.Bd3 Bb7 63.b5 ; 62.b5 makes it even easier for White 62...Kc5 63.Bxe6 Bxe6 64.bxa6 Bc8 ] 1–0There. Done. Fritz, 40 seconds/move, threshold .1. |
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Jan-21-05 | | patzer2: <dac 1990> Would you please go over the procedure you use with Fritz 8 to produce and copy a complete game analysis from Chessgames.com? |
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Jan-22-05 | | SimonBrazil: Vishy Anand is regaining his form, completing a 'twofer' with another victory, this time outplaying Ponomariov in a smooth showing in a complex Najdorf, a win that gained him the public prize. Vishy did not expect the 6...Qb6 variation but reacted strongly and a fierce battle ensued. After 13...Rb8 the position was "complex with many possible plans" - Anand and the first crisis was with 16...Na4, another unexpected choice (16...b4 was more natural) It wasn't until (see diagram 2) 20...Bc6? ( Black would have been wise to retreat with 20...Nc5) that White's advantage started to reach alarming levels. 22. f4! strongly opened the position and Vishy assessed 24.Rf1 as decisive. White simply has too much control and Black is without any counter play. The technical part was long and tedious, but the conclusion was inevitable. Anand: "I felt like in an Alekhine instructive endgame; First I move the King to defend g4 and free the N, then I go back with the king to support c4 etc etc" coruschess.com |
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Jan-23-05 | | santhosh achar: even though Anand has lost the very First game, he regains quickly and now he is in the top list |
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Jan-23-05 | | patzer2: <dac1990> Never mind my question. I found that while in Fritz I can simply hit Ctrl + C and then paste the Fritz analysis to Windows Notepad. From Windows Notepad the text of the Fritz analysis can be highlighted, copied and pasted to a post in Chessgames.com.
Also, for those interested, the following procedure can be used to analyze a game with Frtiz 8: 1. Load up Fritz and then bring up a game online in Chessgames.com. 2. Click on "view text" in Chessgames.com, just below the chessboard position. Highlight the text by dragging the cursor down the left margin and along the bottom line. 3. Press Ctrl + C, while still viewing the highlighted text window in Chessgames.com. 4. Bring up Fritz.
5. In Fritz:
(a)click on Game;
(b) then click on New Game;
6. In Fritz click on Game; then click on Infinite Analysis. 7. In Fritz click on Edit; then click where it says "paste"; then click on Paste Game. 8. The game should now load in Fritz and you can use the arrows to click through the game, while Fritz analyzes at GM strength. a. Allow Fritz 8 a little more time to go through complicated and unclear positions. b. Don't be afraid to make Fritz explore possibilites which are not its first choice. c. Click on Infinite Analysis once or twice and then make alternate moves in Fritz 8 for analysis. |
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Feb-11-05 | | AdrianP: I'm seriously thinking of creating a game collection entitled "Ponomariov's Dumb Knights" in which the present game would be a highlight:
See also just for starters
Kasparov vs Ponomariov, Linares 2003
Anand vs Ponomariov, Linares 2003
Ponomariov vs Kramnik, Linares 2003
In fact, come to think of it, it might be easier to find games where one of Ponomariov's knights ends up on a good square! |
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Feb-12-05 | | passivefianchetto: id give 26.Ne6! |
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Feb-18-05 | | AdrianP: <patzer2> <Fritz 8> There is also the "Full analysis" function rather than "Infinite analysis". Full analysis will annotate an entire game (or selection of games). |
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Dec-04-12 | | grasser: I just read that 8.Ke2 is a playable move followed by 9.Be3 and 10.Kf2 |
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Dec-04-12 | | fokers13: That impervious h6 pawn,a beauty to behold. |
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Feb-18-24
 | | plang: Both players avoided mainline theory and, already, 8 Bf4 was a new move. 8 Qe2 and 8 g4 are the most popular choices. Anand was not worried about 16..Nxb3 17 axb..b4 18 axb..Rxb4 19 Bc4 with the idea of Kb1 and Rc1 feeling that White would be fine here. Anand after 17 Rd3:
"Neither attack is particularly dangerous - both kings are pretty safe - we are going for small positional gains." It is not easy to pinpoint where Black went wrong (Anand was critical of 20..Bc6?!) but after 21 gxh! and 22 f4! White had a clear edge. A subtle positional gem - voted the 5th best game in Informant 92. |
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