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Hans Johner vs Emil Diemer
"Pawnslaught" (game of the day Jan-25-2008)
Thun (1956)
Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. Open (B32)  ·  0-1

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Apr-08-04  Benjamin Lau: "Six extra pawns," pretty literal in this game.
Apr-08-04  iron maiden: Funny game. At first I was thinking, "How can White lose this, he's a rook up"--but then I looked again and saw that he'd managed to lose every single pawn!
Apr-08-04  HailM0rphy: Still pretty impressive from this guy..never heard of him but his record is quite nice
Apr-08-04  waddayaplay: He is known for the unorthodox Blackmar-Diemer gambit.
Apr-08-04  HailM0rphy: Is that the one one where you Sac a horse to get king out? I watched one game of it when it was in example searches(Not in database) and it just seemed foolish
Apr-08-04
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  Sneaky: No, the Blackmar-Diemer is 1.d4 d5 2.e4.

I don't have the slightest clue who Blackmar is, but Diemer is a brilliant and original player. I've heard that he had a weird belief that he could fortell in advance what his opponent would play, as if by ESP. I'm not talking about finding the best move, I'm talking about predicting a blunder that makes no sense! In one tournament his opponent moved and he exclaimed, "Precisely the blunder I was expecting!" He didn't mean anything cruel by that, but I'm sure it set his opponent off.

Outside of his famous gambit, Diemer plays the openings as if he adheres to principles quite differently than the rest of us. Little pawn moves, nibbling away at the position, bizarre king deployment, and on top of it all he's a master tactician.

Apr-08-04  PAWNTOEFOUR: wow!!!........that game was wild!! looks like some of the stuff ya see on yahoo!! lol
Apr-08-04  HailM0rphy: He does play unique
you know if hes still alive? He looks like hes 100 years old in that photo

Even if he is alive I think hes a bit cracky, hes playing checkers and chess on the same board in his photo

Apr-08-04  Lawrence: Interesting guy. Too bad about the extermination camps, though. http://www.chesscafe.com/text/revie...
Apr-08-04  acirce: Ouch.
Apr-08-04
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  Sneaky: <Dommett completely fails to mention the most salient and notorious facts about Diemer, such as that from 1931 on he was an avid member of the Nazi Party, that he retained his admiration for Hitler even after the war, or that in the 1950s he led a vociferous, paranoiac campaign against an imagined homosexual conspiracy in German chess, which he took to such offensive extremes that he and his entire local organization were expelled from the German Chess Federation.>

Gosh I never knew that... assuming it's true. It's easy to slander somebody by saying "Hitler support"; to be a German supporting Hitler in the 1930's was about as contraversial, at the time, as an American supporting Clinton in the 1990's.

Apr-08-04  kevin86: This one reminds me of FISCHER-SPASSKY 1972 g 13. Fischer managed to gain FIVE passed pawns-but good defense by Spassky-had a draw in sight-until the latter blundered on the 69th move.

SNEAKY:ha ha for comparing Hitler to Clinton. In an odd sort of way,you are correct-but-and this is a big BUT-Hitler already showed his extreme politics in his best selling book,MEIN KAMPF-pulished in the late 20s.

A nice whimsical game!!

Apr-08-04
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  Sneaky: I wasn't really comparing Hitler to Clinton (although I must admit, lines could be drawn!) ... I was just saying that for a German to support the most popular political party in Germany is not something radical--you could say the same thing for millions and millions of Germans at the time. And yet years after the fact, historians go back and try to demonize people for their political affiliations.

Anyhow, politics aside, Diemer was a wonderful player who deserves our attention.

Apr-08-04  Taidanii: Even if black didn't manage to pretty much secure a piece in the final position, the six pawns are close to invincible.
Apr-08-04  kevin86: I am just wondering what future generations will say about the neo-imperialism of this president! Politics is so much based on point of view;it could be said that the "Hitler administration" was based on economic growth and anti-terrorism,based on the National Socialist point of view.

Too bad,I would have loved so see the endgame of ♖ vs six ♙ !!

Apr-08-04  Jim Bartle: I swear if I'd been playing white in this one, I'd have been ecstatic, sure I'd won, wondering why my opponent kept playing....Then looking up at a terrible moment to see I was down 6-0 in pawns.
Apr-09-04  Lawrence: For anyone who missed <matein8>'s link on the Diemer page it's http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hans0... What a weird guy (Diemer, not matein8). Obsessive to the nth degree (Diemer, not matein8). A very nice guy (matein8, not Diemer).
Apr-09-04  HailM0rphy: Wow I can't belive I've never heard of him before..prob alot others too Glad CG.com put him on featured games 2 weeks in a row :)
Apr-18-04  arthur nugent: Does anyone know where I can
get a German book on Diemer?
It was written by Studier and
is biographical.Would like to know what Diemer plays as black.Thanks. arthur
Jan-05-05  aw1988: <Sneaky: No, the Blackmar-Diemer is 1.d4 d5 2.e4.> I thought it was 1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3?
Mar-28-05  aw1988: It's true, Diemer was scary... it was indeed like he has ESP. One time, we played, and got into quite an unbalanced double-rook endgame. (I had two(!) pawns more, but one of the rooks was locked out of play entirely, never to be released, while the two pawns I had were passers, guided by the remaining rook from behind. His two rooks were suprisingly passively active, meaning that they were confined to about 3 ranks, but those 3 ranks were crucial to prevent maneuvers by my rook to queen... he was pushing his a and b-pawns guided by the two rooks while trying to prevent me from queening first. Oh, he had a pawn on h4 blocking my pawn on h3, and I was looking for tempi to grab it and then push the other pawns while defending against his monster pawns... nuts)

Anyways, there were no "obvious moves", and I believe out of the 56 moves(!!!) that the endgame lasted, he predicted about 85 percent of what I played, as he told me later, and even pointed them out.

I won! After asking him "If you could predict what I was going to play so accurately, how did you not win or at least draw that?" to which he responded "I may see what you are going to play, but I had a difficult time looking for refutations and such."

In my opinion, he could have won by 2 tempi, in my analysis of the game afterwards, which took about 5 months solid, bear in mind no computers.

However, in this analysis black has to give up 5(!!) tempi to win by 2.

Not an easy job.

The main point being, I guess he had excellent intuition.

Mar-10-06  LluviaSean: Where are all of white's bloody pawns???
Apr-16-06  IMDONE4: They've all been taken by Diemer :)
Apr-16-06  IMDONE4: I'm not sure white's position is completely resignable though... His pawns are still way back and it will be hard for him to protect them all while white's Queen snipes off a few of them.
Apr-16-06  IMDONE4: Crafty, is it possible we could get some analysis on this?
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