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Feb-22-07 | | micartouse: <spinal pat> I looked at Rd7 too, but I don't think it makes progress after something like: 1. Rd7 Rc7
2. Rd8 Rc8
So something more forceful is required since otherwise Black has a decent position. |
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Feb-22-07 | | mannetje: <<<<<Fisheremon: 23...bxa3?? admitting a mate end. Seemingly the only saving move was 23...Bd5.
White missed a really nice combo on 22 move: 22.Rxc5, e.g. 22...f5 (22...Rxc5?? 23.Bf6 and same mate construction) 23.Qh5 g6 24.Rxc8 Rxc8 25.Qh6 and surprisingly ( ).>>>>> I think you're wrong on that one! After 22.Rxc5? Rxc5 23.Bf6 Rg8 24.Rd8 black can still play 24...Rc1+ and white is lost. (i guess)
I don't have Fritz or anything and I'm doing this without a board, so I could be wrong. |
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Feb-22-07 | | alshatranji: Interesting. I won a game using the same idea just a few days ago. |
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Feb-22-07 | | Dr.Lecter: Eeeeeaaaaasssssyyyyyyy. |
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Feb-22-07 | | alshatranji: 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nxe5 d6
4. Nf3 Nxe4
5. d4 d5
6. Bd3 Bd6
7. Qe2 O-O
8. O-O Re8
9. Be3 c5
10. dxc5 Bxc5
11. Bxe4 dxe4
12. Bxc5 Bg4
13. Qc4 Bxf3
14. gxf3 Qg5+
15. Kh1 exf3
16. Rg1 Re1 and Black wins |
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Feb-22-07 | | Rubenus: As most people say, it is too easy for Thursday. |
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Feb-22-07 | | kevin86: It was a simple puzzle-but I missed it because of its subtlety. After 24...gxf6 25 exf6 ♖g8 26 ♖d8 ♖xd8 27 ♖xd8-and the unsupported pin will do the trick.(notice,no checks) Black is helpless to stop ♕g7#. |
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Feb-22-07 | | twin phoenix: Does seeing the line 24. B-f6, R-g8 25. R-d8!? count? 25. Qxg7!! is much stronger but i don't see a way out with the first line. so i guess i get credit for solving this one... |
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Feb-22-07 | | Fisheremon: <mannetje: <<<<<Fisheremon: 23...bxa3?? admitting a mate end. Seemingly the only saving move was 23...Bd5. White missed a really nice combo on 22 move: 22.Rxc5, e.g. 22...f5 (22...Rxc5?? 23.Bf6 and same mate construction) 23.Qh5 g6 24.Rxc8 Rxc8 25.Qh6 and surprisingly ( ).>>>>> I think you're wrong on that one! After 22.Rxc5? Rxc5 23.Bf6 Rg8 24.Rd8 black can still play 24...Rc1+ and white is lost. (i guess) I don't have Fritz or anything and I'm doing this without a board, so I could be wrong.> Right, not same mate construction, but almost, cos' 24.Qxg7+ Rxg7 25.Rd8#. Also I've checked the combo just earns a pawn, cos' 23...g6 was not the best move of Black. |
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Feb-22-07
 | | fm avari viraf: I think Sacconi's achilles heel is his g7 square & 24.Bf6 brings the curtains down. |
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Feb-22-07 | | Themofro: A bit obviuos for a Thursday, but a nice mating pattern regardless, Rd8 was really the best part of the combination though in the game it wasn't reached. |
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Feb-22-07 | | wals: What a great move by Mr Havasi, the icing on the cake so to speak. |
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Feb-22-07
 | | playground player: Does anybody really care that I saw Bf6 right away, and then couldn't find the right continuation? Now I don't see how I possibly could have missed it. Must be the weather. |
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Feb-22-07 | | Happypuppet: <playground player> In an on-the-board tournament game, could you have convinced yourself to play it, and if you had could you have followed through without mucking up? Whether you've solved the puzzle or not is obviously a subjective matter, but this is a good general guideline. |
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Feb-22-07 | | DeepThought: 23..bxa3?? (M6)
23..Qb8! or 23..Rg8 (Rybka: -0.40) |
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Feb-22-07 | | FreeThinkerBoy: what about...
24...gxf6
25 exf6 Rg8
Doesn't that solve black's predicament?
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Feb-22-07 | | Ken MacGillivray: <Freethinkerboy> After 24... gxf6 25.exf6 Rg8 26.Rd8 Rcxd8 27.Rd8 and mate next move |
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Feb-22-07 | | sfm: <Ken MacGillivray: <Freethinkerboy> After 24... gxf6 25.exf6 Rg8 26.Rd8 Rcxd8 27.Rd8 and mate next move>
Wanna bet? ;-) |
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Feb-22-07 | | tdubb43: Black has a perfectly viable escape. 24...Rg8 25 Rd8 25...gxf6 OR 25 Bxg7 25... Rxg7 26 Rd8 26... Rg8 Black comes out a bishop ahead and has plenty of room to work with, as his queen can back up the 8th rank. |
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Feb-22-07 | | InspiredByMorphy: <tdubb43> 24. ...Rg8 25.Rd8 gxf6 26.Qxg8# 24. ...Rg8 25.Bxg7+ Rxg7 26.Rd8+ Rxd8 27.Rd8+ Rg8 28.Rxg8# |
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Feb-22-07 | | sfm: <Black has a perfectly viable escape. 24...Rg8> But someone here said something about 25.Qxg7+ |
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Feb-23-07 | | Fisheremon: <DeepThought: 23..bxa3?? (M6) 23..Qb8! or 23..Rg8 (Rybka: -0.40)>
23...Rg8? 24.Rd7 Qb8 25.f4 (the line below also available) bxa3 26.Rxf7 Qxb2 27.e4 Bd5 28.exd5 a2 29.h3 a1Q 30.Rxa1 Qxa1+ 31.Kh2 Qd4 32.d6 Rb8 33.d7 c4 34.f5 ( ) 23...Qb8?! (the main line) 24.Rd7 Qxe5 25.Rxf7 Rg8 26.Qe2 Bd5 27.Bg3 Qg5 28.e4 Bc6 29.h3 Qg6 30.Rf4 with an irresistible attack along g-file and diagonal a1-h8. |
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Feb-23-07 | | kevin86: White can mate after 24...♖g8 25 ♕xg7+ ♖xg7 26 ♖d8+ ♖xd8 27 ♖xd8#. The theme is that in the one variation,the black rook is pinned to the last row and cannot stop Qg7-in this one,the reverse is true: the rook is pinned along the diagonal and is unable to guard the back row. |
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Feb-23-07 | | Ken MacGillivray: <sfm> No i won't bet because black can delay the mate by one move with 27 ... Qxg2+ |
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Feb-26-07
 | | gawain: Solved this one quickly. A nice thematic pin & mate is inevitable. |
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