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Siegbert Tarrasch vs Fred Dewhirst Yates
"Pride and Prejudice" (game of the day Nov-25-2011)
Hamburg (1910), Hamburg GER, rd 14, Aug-03
Queen Pawn Game: Symmetrical Variation (D02)  ·  0-1

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Jan-26-09  WhiteRook48: Tarrasch got Tharrasched
May-14-11
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  OhioChessFan: I ran it through Fritz and he says 19...Rc1 is the blunder. Rd1 or Nf3 is much better. Ashamed to say it took me a while to figure out why. 22..f4 is much better for Black. 23. Rc2 holds on a little longer for White.
Nov-25-11
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  Phony Benoni: Puzzled by the pun?

This was Yates' first important international tournament. Tarrasch had objected to his inclusion, feeling he wasn't strong enough for the event.

Objectively, Tarrasch was probably right. Yates finished dead last by 2.5 points and won only one game.

This one.

Nov-25-11  sevenseaman: Looks like Yates showed enough pride to put Tarrasch's prejudice in perspective.

Good enough to beat the strongest player. Yates has indeed scalped some marquee names.

Nov-25-11
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Well, <sevenseaman>, Yates was one of those erratic ones; his opponents always had to cross their fingers and hope he would not have one of his "best-player-on-the-planet-for-the-next-six-hours- " days.
Nov-25-11  PaulLovric: <Benzol> Tarrasch seems behind very early and gets constantly smashed by Yates in every move, like a boss
Nov-25-11
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  piltdown man: He was a great player on his day, Mr Yates. But very inconsistent.
Nov-25-11
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  FSR: 17.Qa1 looks like a Reti-type move. It didn't work out too well, although White would still have been OK if he'd played something stronger on move 19.
Nov-25-11  Llawdogg: Wow! Beautiful knight sacrifice!
Nov-25-11
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  Penguincw: Great idea to sac the ♘. Looks like white is going to lose a piece. The bishop is attacked 3 times and only defended twice. If 34.♔c3 then 34...♗xd4+ 35.♔b4 ♗xa1 36.♖xe4 g5 is winning.


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Nov-25-11
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  whiteshark: The Doctor liked it to talk pretty big.
Nov-25-11
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  Phony Benoni: If you're not familiar with Yates' chess, you <MUST> look at this game, and I do mean <MUST>:

Alekhine vs Yates, 1923

Nov-25-11  Pepperpot: I'm having a hard time picturing <Tarrasch> as <Mr Darcy>, let alone <Yates> as <Elizabeth Bennet>; this is wrong on so many levels.
Nov-25-11
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  HeMateMe: <Phony Benoni:> Thats amazing. How do you know these things?
Nov-26-11  Pepperpot: When asked his opinion of <Yates>'s chess, <Tarrasch> returned, <Barely tolerable.>
Nov-26-11
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  Phony Benoni: <HeMateMe: Phony Benoni: Thats amazing. How do you know these things?>

I'm old.

Nov-26-11  King Death: < Phony Benoni: <HeMateMe: Phony Benoni: Thats amazing. How do you know these things?> I'm old.>

That's good. I'll have to remember it.

Nov-28-11
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  kevin86: The bishop will go-but black must beware of 34 ♖c8?! ♕xd4+?? 35 ♕xd4 and wins!!
Dec-01-11
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  Honza Cervenka: Tarrasch's Reti-like setup with 19.Rc1 would not be so bad if it would not have a big tactical hole in 19...Nxe3! On the other hand, Yates missed immediate win after 22...f4!
Dec-27-11
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  Richard Taylor: But Tarrasch also played some very beautiful combinations, and some great chess games. I played 100 of his ages over. They are some of the best by a Master I have ever played over. I preferred them to Alekhine's games. In fact I thought his play was better than Alekhine's (overall). In his time, at his best he was the best player (as far as is known).

But Yates also, at his best played some nice combinational games it seems!

Jun-20-13  Monocle: Funny how often this story recurs in chess history - a player objects to the inclusion of another in a tournament, on the grounds of playing strength, and then proceeds to lose against the supposedly weak player they objected to. Tarrasch and Yates, Bernstein and Capablanca, Becker and Menchik... I wonder how many other examples there are.
Jun-21-13  RookFile: Why would you object to a weaker player anyway? I would like the idea of fresh meat, an easy point, if that was the reality.
Jun-22-13  Monocle: The trouble with the idea of it being an easy point, is that all the other players get the easy point as well, so it doesn't affect the tournament standings and really all you've done is wasted a day. Chess takes a lot of energy, so who wants to waste energy on a weak player when they need all their energy to somehow squeeze an extra half-point out of Schlecter in the next round?
Sep-11-18  Howard: Good point! On the other hand, some players may argue that having an "easy point" can be the rough equivalent of a rest day.

One of the most blatant examples I've ever seen of an "easy point" was Sharizi (sp) being in the 1984 US championship. Out of 17 games, he drew but ONE! And Peters beat him in just five moves!!!

Jul-04-21  BickeDag: Funny how Tarrasch thought Yates was a bad player. He may have been mediocre in 1910, but won this game and later on he finished higher than Tarrasch in most of the tournaments they both attended. Perhaps this tournament was what motivated Yates to improve faster.
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