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| Oct-23-14 | | PhilFeeley: Did he announce mate in 7? |
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| Oct-23-14 | | BxChess: This for me was a case of getting the right move for the wrong reason. I completely overlooked the fact that the bishop on c8 had to be removed before playing Qh3. <Karlzen> discusses the interesting line 30. Rh8+ Kxh8 31. Rxc8+ Qe8. Then the best line is not to take the queen but 32. Qh3+ Kg8 33. Ne6 with an untstoppable mate to follow. |
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Oct-23-14
 | | Once: <TheBish> If you're in time, can you edit your post please to take out the tildes? You're forcing the screen to go very wide, which will not work for people who need a large font. |
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| Oct-23-14 | | morfishine: The Game score was my first line:
<30.Rh8+> 30...Kxh8 31.Rxc8+ Rxc8 32.Qh3+ Kg8 33.Qxc8+ Rf8 34.Qe6+ Kh8
35.Qh3+ Kg8 36.Qh7#
But <30.Rxc8+> looks just as effective after 30...Rxc8 (no good is 30...Rf8 31.Rh8+ Kxh8 32.Qh3+ Kg8 33.Qh7#) 31.Rh8+ Kxh8 32.Qh3+ Kg8 33.Qxc8+ Rf8 34.Qe6+ Kh8 35.Qh3+ Kg8 36.Qh7# In both lines, Black could use "spite blocks" like Qe8 or Rh4 delaying mate at the cost of massive amounts of material ***** |
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Oct-23-14
 | | perfidious: Ah, so <that> is the cause of posts very occasionally stretching as far as one's eye can see.... |
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| Oct-23-14 | | morfishine: Whatsa 'Tilde' ?
<perfidious> Talk about "Horizon Effect" ***** |
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Oct-23-14
| | perfidious: <morf> A tilde is that little squiggly character above and to the left of the numeral '1' on your keyboard, alongside the exclam. |
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| Oct-23-14 | | schachfuchs: My first choice was 30.Rxc8+
very 'straight forward' puzzle -
more Monday or Tuesday style for me ;-)
What was Black's main mistake before
Tilde ~ 26....Rf7 ? |
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Oct-23-14
 | | Penguincw: An interesting Thursday puzzle that makes good use of the queen, but I only got 30.Rh8+ Kxh8 31.Qh3+ Kg8 32.Qh7+ Kf8 33.Qh8+ Ke7 34.Qxg7+ Kd8. |
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Oct-23-14
 | | patzer2: My solution for today's Thursday puzzle was 30. Rxc8+! 30. Rxc8+ Rxc8 31. Rh8+ Kxh8 32. Qh3+ Kg8 33. Qxc8+ Rf8 34. Qe6+ Kh8 35. Qh3+ Kg8 36. Qh7#. According to Fritz 12, both 30. Rxc8+! and 30. Rh8+! lead to mate-in-eight. Perhaps it's nitpicking, but 30. Rh8+! is technically more precise because White doesn't have to calculate the extra line after 30. Rxc8+ Qe8!? (diagram below) 
click for larger viewHere White has mate-in-five after 31. Rh8+ Kxh8 32. Qh3+ Rh4 (32...Kg8 33. Qe6+! Rf7 34. Qxe8+ Rf8 35. Qxf8#) 33. Qxh4+ Kg8 34. Ne6! Rxc8 35. Qh7#. P.S.: Perhaps the most difficult task in evaluating the game involves finding a defensive move for Black after 29. g6! (diagram below) 
click for larger viewHere Fritz 12 indicates the game saving move is 29...Rc7!! =. |
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Oct-23-14
| | Penguincw: ♔ ATTENTION ♔
Dear <TheBish>. Your post G Benini vs Reggio, 1911 is breaking the page (all the squiggly lines are making the post wider than they should be). Please delete and repost it, without that many squiggly signs. Keep reading: If you are reading this after one hour, do not worry. Unlike what <cg> told you, you <can> delete a post after 1 hour with a simple hack of the URL. Please copy and paste the following link (without the spaces) and delete it. Once your post is deleted, I will delete this one. Thank you. :) www.chessgames.com/perl/kill?kid= G1272301 &reply=23
BTW: If that's not your exact post, just keep looking. ;) |
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Oct-23-14
| | Once: A tilde is one of these ~~~~~
This is what is happening ...
The software behind this website will adjust the number of words per line to fit the column width. If you use a tiny font or have a big screen, you might squeeze twenty words onto a line. The software will reduce the number of words per line if you want, say if you are reading on a narrow screen (say a phone or a tablet) or you need a large font for eyesight issues. The problem comes if you put a row of characters as in the Bish's post. The software treats this as one whole word which it cannot split. So it extends the width of the column to fit this "word" in. The result is that everyone gets a super wide column whether they want it or not. I suspect the Bish didn't notice because it will look absolutely fine on his/her screen. It's happened a few times before. A pure accident, a peculiarity of the way that this particular website works. Unfortunately we need either the Bish or one of the admins to come along and edit the post. Then all will go back to normal. |
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Oct-23-14
| | doubledrooks: Count me among those who opted for 30. Rxc8+. |
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Oct-23-14
| | Oxspawn: What is there to stop white playing
30 Rh8+ Kxh8
31 Qh3+ Kg8
32 Qh8# ?
The answer is the bishop on c1 which covers the h3 square
Can the bishop be removed?
Yes it can – the white rook on c1 can take it. The problem is that the white rook on c1 is protecting its first rank from the queen and the rook.
But… every move white makes is a check so black has no time to exploit the gap.30. Rxc8+ Rxc8
31. Rh8+ Kxh8
32. Qh3+ Kg8 (Rh4 only delays things by one move)
33. Qh7#
So does black have any options? Just one I think
30. Rxc8+ Rf8
Now the mistake would be to take the rook since it would give the king an escape square after retaking and time for the black queen to invade. So just ignore the interruption I think 31. Rh8+ Kxh8
32 Qh3+Kg8 etc….
After feeling that Tuesday and Wednesday were too hard, this seems to be easier. What did I miss?
If this is right then in the main line white ends with a queen, knight and two pawns and wins against a queen two rooks and four pawns. The g pawn wins it for white. |
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| Oct-23-14 | | Sally Simpson: A goodie. It's a Foxtrot.
(You hum the later part of the combo to 'slow, slow, quick-quick, slow.) Check-Check-Nifty Check - Mate.
Perfect.
I like this new layout. |
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Oct-23-14
| | Oxspawn: O dear. 32. Qh7 (which is what I meant!) is not mate! That would have been embarrassing. |
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| Oct-23-14 | | dfcx: Forced mate sequence with double rook sac. Both 30. Rxc8 and 30. Rh8+ produce the same result. 30. Rxc8+ Rxc8
31. Rh8+ Kxh8
32. Qh3+ Kg8
33. Qxc8+ Rf8
34. Qe6+ Kh8
35. Qh3+ Kg8
36. Qh7#
If black plays 34...Rf7 35. Qxf7+ Kh8 36. Qf8#
Easier than yesterday |
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| Oct-23-14 | | JTV: The whole game was very fascinating because black had a winning edge over white and blew it. After 10. Ne2 Qc7 White blunders with c3. Should have played 11. Qe3 to support the e5 pawn. I like the move for black 11...a6 before erasing the e5 pawn off of the board. By the time we get to 13. f4, black should have played 13...Nc4, attacking the queen but loses a tempo by retreating the knight to c6. On move 14, black needed to develop his white squared bishop to d7 but takes the d4 bishop instead. That c8 bishop shouldn't be ignored. At move 14 white makes another blunder by taking the d4 knight with his pawn instead of 14. Nxd4, developing the knight to a better square but then black blunders by attacking whites b5 bishop with his queen instead of 15...a6. Then white blunders by moving the bishop to 16. d3, should keep the bishop on the a4-e8 diagonal by retreating to the a4 square. When we get to move 16, black just totally ignores 16...Bd7 and plays 16...f5, losing a bit of the lead. At move 18 black isn't worried about developing his bishop or securing b5 with 18...a6 but decides to take advantage of whites weak d4 pawn. Bxd4 is a poor move that opens the door for Bxf5! and white takes that opportunity on the next move and if black takes then white has some awesome knight attacks and threats. Black keeps the leading advantage all the way up to move 25 and the he makes the inferior move 25...b6 when he could have been attacking white's knight on d4 by playing 25...e5 or 25...Bd7!! By move 26 black has lost his nice lead over white and is now down by around a pawn and 1/2 (roughly speaking.) The move that really tips the scale towards white was 29...Rxf4. We can almost call this move the blunder of the century! As we can see the rest is history... |
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| Oct-23-14 | | BOSTER: To <read> CG Puzzle sometimes is the same like to look at last page of the interesting story. I want to show you how the plot of this story was created. Playing 19...Qxb2 black put white under pressure, attacking rook a1 and queen d2 with great desire to trade the queens. The attacking bishop f5 became <desperado> and played 20.Bxh7.(diagram).
click for larger view Black without any calculation took the bishop Kxh7. And this mistake gave white the possibility to keep the queen playing subtle 21.Qd3+ Kg8 and 22.Rb1. But if black played 20...Kh8 instead Kxh7, white could not escape to trade the queen. |
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Oct-23-14
 | | Bubo bubo: White mates or gains decisive material advantage thanks to two brave rooks and and an agile queen: 30.Rxc8+!, and now A) 30...Rxc8 31.Rh8+! Kxh8 32.Qh3+ Kg8 (or 32...Rh4 33.Qxc8+ and mate) 33.Qxc8+ Rf8 34.Qe6+ and mate in two: 34...Rf7 35.Qxf7+ Kh8 36.Qf8# or 34...Kh8 35.Qh3+ Kg8 36.Qh7# B) 30...Rf8 31.Rh8+! Kxh8 32.Qh3+ Kg8 33.Qh7#
C) 30...Qe8 32.Rxa8 Qxa8 33.Qxe5, and because of White's threat Qe6+ Black loses either his rook or his queen against a rook (33...Rf6 34.Rh8+ Kxh8 35.Qh5+ Kg8 36.Qh7+ Kf8 37.Qh8 Ke7 38.Qxa8). Definitively easier than yesterday!
Edit: Missed the forced mate in line C) - pity! |
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| Oct-23-14 | | Whitehat1963: Just missed it. |
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| Oct-23-14 | | whiteshark: What else? |
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| Oct-23-14 | | newhampshireboy: Black had a bishop pair and several pawns with a material advantage and blew his game up. However, chrisowen said it more accurately than I ever could. He hit the nail on the head! |
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| Oct-23-14 | | Riverbeast: The finishing combination was simple but beautifully geometrical This would be a good combination to show kids in a chess class...It teaches them patterns they will see repeated over and over in future games |
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| Oct-24-14 | | Lord Zontar: Burn both rooks to gain the game:
30 Rc8+ Rxc8
31 Rh8+ Kxh8
32 Qh3+ Rh4
33 Qxc8+ Qe8
34 Qxe8#.
Reggio's position collapses so precipitously before he has the chance to launch his killer combination against Benini, it's not even funny. Or rather it should have been. Pity that in the actual game, Benini made it harder on himself by sacrificing the wrong rook first. Yes, it did work out the same in the end, but without the crushing swiftness that would have made heads spin. |
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