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Alexey Shirov vs Jan Timman
Corus Group A (2004), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 7, Jan-18
French Defense: Classical. Burn Variation Morozevich Line (C11)  ·  1-0



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Sep-07-04  get Reti: 101. Qb8+ winning the rook. Does anyone know any other K+Q vs. K+R endgames?
Dec-08-04  mjk: <get Reti> Right now there are seventy K+Q vs. K+R endgames in the database. Eight of those are draws, but sometimes in won positions.
Mar-05-06  numcrun: What a shocker. I defended this for ages and got a draw...and I'm a 1300 munter. Keep the rook near the King, Timman!
Mar-21-07  gambitfan: I do not understand the endgame Q // R
Mar-21-07  micartouse: <gambitfan> It's extremely hard. It's not so much about understanding as it just requires concrete knowledge.

Fine Basic Chess Endings and many other endgame books give the standard winning technique. How to push the rook and king back and then finish them off. You just need to know a few key positions and it's cake.

What the books don't tell you is all the tricky ways a computer can prolong this ending by separating the king and rook. Sorry if I'm just saying a bunch of crap you already know. I haven't bothered to master the ending against perfect computer play myself, but occasionally I chip away at it.

Mar-23-07  gambitfan: Thank you <micartouse> for your kind explanations

I very much appreciate in fact the endgame explorer by .

Re-playing in a dynamic way these endings gives me some bits of understanding... Some times I understand and some other times I don't... Like this one...

Mar-30-07  gambitfan: very interesting ending ; before having a Queen against a Rook we had 2 pawns against a rook... one of the pawns queens...
Mar-30-07  gambitfan: and before... 0ne ♖ and 2 ♙ against one ♖ and one ♙
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  Plaskett: Hard to believe this is a real result.
I (idiot that I am) drew Q vs R against Hebden in a Rapids game at Oviedo, 1993 when I allowed him to pin my Q. I also was so afraid of the ending (and so lazy and ignorant as not to have learned it in the four year interim) that I passed over opportunities to enter it (I recalled Walter Browne having drawn it circa 1978 Vs a Database) and managed to draw a trivially won ending, two pawns up, in a League match Vs Speelman in 1997. The failure to realise so trivially a winning position was described by The Daily Telegraph´s Chess Correspondent, IM Malcolm Pein, as "Almost unforgiveable". Fair comment, too.
Dec-04-20  Martin Rattigan: <numcrun> It's a theoretical win after move 91. Who were you defending against?

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