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NN vs Du Mont
Unknown (1802)
Bird Opening: From Gambit (A02)  ·  0-1

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Jun-07-05  Catfriend: <Appaz> lol, I never said it's a good one! It was just a counter-sacrifice against <Jaym>'s attack!
Jun-07-05  farrooj: good one <Catfriend>
Jun-07-05  Jaymthetactician: By the way, <Jaym*> if you always set up your pieces as: <text omitted here> then it is not really random is it?!

Well, it is if the opponent get's to decide a piece set-up for each side for the match.

Jun-09-05  Catfriend: But the rules are that same set-up is to be used by both sides!
Jun-09-05  Jaymthetactician: Catfriend: But the rules are that same set-up is to be used by both sides!

Exactly, some games the opponent decides, other games I decide, is what I said. I think Fischerrandom should replace the classical chess for good, they should hold a Fischerrandom world champion tournament to declare the old chess dead.

Jun-27-05  aw1988: Your story Jay is um, fascinating.
Sep-01-05  fudge: Hey Jay, you should send your script to the Wachowski brothers. Throw in a pair of sunglasses, a long black leather jacket and some "bullet time" (TM) chess piece moving effects and you could have a winner on your hands.
Nov-20-05
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  FSR: 4...Qg5?! is an unbelievably heavy-handed move. White should have responded with 5.Bg2 followed by Nf3. 4...h5! followed by ...h4 is much better, although you won't get a mate in 6 out of it. White should have played 4.Nf3! instead of 4.g3?
Nov-26-05  Chopin: This is a very famous trap against the Bird.
Aug-04-06  jackmandoo: <chopin> I just saw this trap on "Larry King Live".
Apr-30-07  actionhero56: NN got "pont" by du mont
Dec-07-07  porgue: <traveled back to the year 2200>

jay, can you really do that?
wheres michael j fox when you need him?

Dec-07-07  porgue: also, du pont taking with the queen just rubs it in poor NN's face (awww)
Feb-02-08  wolfmaster: 5...? is a good Mon/Tuesday puzzle.
Feb-10-08  porgue: <5...? is a good Mon/Tuesday puzzle.>

too obvious, even for mondays!

Aug-13-08  TheaN: It's so nice to notice that:

1) a computer prefers 5....Bxf3 blindly.
2) with a Queen on c5 a computer takes longer to find the mate.

Mar-13-09  whiteshark: <A quiet move in the midst of an attack is the sign of the master.>

-- Du Mont

I guess it was not this game he had in mind then.

Mar-13-09  WhiteRook48: 5. Nf3??? is just crazy
May-14-09  YoungEd: Black spins a nice web here. You might even say it's the Du Mont net work.
Aug-30-10  Nightsurfer: Hi folks,
now the mystery is solved, the secret of the historic site where that STEM GAME of FROM's GAMBIT has been played many years before the 2nd stem game by re-inventor M.S.From from Denmark, please check out M Mollerstrom vs M S From, 1862 : it has been PARIS, the City of Lovers, way back in 1802! Great city, great Game!
Oct-07-17  ACMEKINGKRUSHER: Ya know WHAT?
In CLUB PLAY anything is Possible! At our Last Meeting I WON a "QUICKIE" with the similar "Fools Mate" Idea! It and "Scholar's Mate" along with other CHESS BASICS are seen in various formats Every Day! It is perhaps "More WORSE" to see this in a GM Game!

ACME KING KRUSHER

Nov-12-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  Chessical: analysis of move 5.?
Oct-07-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  sachistu: Obviously, this could not have been J. Du Mont. That has not stopped various sources from reporting it as though it was fact.

Apparently, the actual players and/or date is still unknown. This assumes it was an actual game and not some piece of analysis.

For what it's worth, this same mistake happened in a rapid game in Los Angeles (1928) Livadary-Douglas Graham as reported in the Los Angeles Times, July 8th, 1928.

Jun-10-21
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: <Nightsurfer> 1.f4 e5 should not be called <From's Gambit> or even <Du Mont's Gambit>, but <NN's Gambit>. Shockingly, NN did not play it an exemplary manner. Greco vs NN, 1620
Jul-07-23  generror: Another <JaymTheTactician> gem :)
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